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05-03-2005, 03:14 PM
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#196 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I think the Japs could have successfully landed an invasion force but they would not have been able to withstand it and within days it would have been destroyed. There was just no way to sustain it and resupply it plus the US could have more quickly put forces on the beaches.
The only reason I think the Japs could have started a beachhead is because of sheer suprise. The US would not have suspected this to happen, however it deffinatly would have failed.
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05-03-2005, 03:18 PM
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Country: | I don't think the Japanese would have been stupid enough to do that. At most Hawaii would have been taken beyond Midway. I doubt it would have knocked America out of the war though. The Pacific would have been in the IJNs hold but not for long with events in Europe.
The US could have diverted what would have been in the Pacific to Europe. End it there, then finish off the Japanese. I actually do think that India and Burma could have been held by the British because that was the largest Army Britain had, the 14th Army, and they became experts in jungle warfare from their experiences.
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05-03-2005, 03:35 PM
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As for the Pacific, Midway would have fallen if the carriers were hit at Pearl, but I am not sure because the boats were rebuilt so fast. If Pearl was hit with the third strike as planned it would be a different story.
but with out Midway Port Morsby would fall. I do not think they could invade Austraila, but air strikes would be everyday. With all this said the Japanese subs would have been able to cut the lines west. 
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05-03-2005, 03:41 PM
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#199 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | If Pearl was hit a 3rd time, what? The boats would not have been built fast eneogh. The carriers were built on the mainland west coast and east coast, and there was no way for the Japs to hit the naval yards there undetected after Pearl Harbor.
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05-03-2005, 03:44 PM
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#200 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i don't think australia has to worry about their supply lines being cut though, they're pretty damn self sufficient.........
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05-03-2005, 03:56 PM
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#201 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I agree with you on that. Anything other then small islands and mainland asia (only because of its proximity) had nothing to worry about.
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05-03-2005, 04:02 PM
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#202 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | and they've got allot of british blood in them too, which means they'll be resorcefull and they'll never give up........
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05-03-2005, 04:22 PM
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#203 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | If you say so.
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05-03-2005, 04:31 PM
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Country: | Australia is hardly worth taking anyway. North Australia, yes but not all of it. There's too much resource required for the job. Much more than Japan had on offer while fighting with the British forces in India and Burma.
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05-03-2005, 04:42 PM
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#205 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | They deffinatly had there hands full there.
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05-03-2005, 04:45 PM
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Country: | They had my Grandad there.
Although that was a joke, my Grandad was in the Chindits and a 'Blitzer' at that. The Japanese hated them, they were the targets to aim for when in combat.
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05-03-2005, 05:00 PM
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#207 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Dont know much about them.
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05-03-2005, 05:13 PM
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Country: | The Chindits were dropped or march behind enemy lines. They set up fire-bases to disrupt enemy supply lines and reserve movement. It was guerilla warfare and the Japanese had no effective way of stopping it.
Not only was it an effective military operation but a great moral booster because the Chindits were just drawn from the normal Army ranks. The normal Army would think "If they could do it, we can"
The Japanese to this day say that it was the Chindits that won the war for the Allies in the CBI.
A "Blitzer" was a Bren-Gunner. They would fire from the hip and would be sent in first, or against snipers with their gun blazing to strike fear into the enemy. Then they would lay down accurate fire support while the attack was going on. The Japanese hated Bren-Gunners because of how accurate and deadly they were.
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05-03-2005, 05:15 PM
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#209 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Aha thanks.
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05-03-2005, 05:18 PM
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#210 | | Senior Member
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Country: | The Chindits could only be supplied from the air and the injured were either left behind or evacuated by air. Lysanders came in handy for that, with their short take off and landing.
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