Possible End of the ww2

delcyros · 03-23-2005, 10:30 AM

I like the Bucovina(?)... And YES, it was very undeveloped (at least on my excavation site), we had no cars, just a few horses. But indeed very funny! I like it.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 03-23-2005, 11:26 AM

We drove from Germany and it was quite undeveloped, the roads were unpaved but it was very beautiful and the people were amazijngly friendly. I once went to Constantinople when I flew my aircraft to an airshow there, it was quite fun and we broke and had to stay there for a few extra days.

hellmaker · 03-24-2005, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

We drove from Germany and it was quite undeveloped, the roads were unpaved but it was very beautiful and the people were amazijngly friendly. I once went to Constantinople when I flew my aircraft to an airshow there, it was quite fun and we broke and had to stay there for a few extra days.

Hmmm... Ich denke nein... Ich weiss nicht wo hast du gefliegen...

... aber Constantinople gibt nicht mehr, und auch war es nicht in Romania (Es heist heute Istambul...

)... Villeicht hast du zum Constanta gefliegen, neben die See... Dort gibt die Kogalniceanu Flugfeld...

Und auch Romania ist nicht so unter entwickelt...

... Ihr haben kein recht...

the lancaster kicks ass · 03-24-2005, 04:54 AM

wow i don't get any of that...........

hellmaker · 03-24-2005, 05:24 AM

I was just standing up for my country...

... It is not ill developed

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 03-24-2005, 09:44 AM

I think it is a beautiful country my friend dont worry. I just remember driving on a lot of dirt roads and taking a very long time to get there. Whenever we go there we take our Jeep and not our Mercedes so that we dont get stuck anywhere, but I love Romania dont worry.

And you are probably right we called it Constanza in English, I just went back and looked at the flight rought papers.

hellmaker · 03-24-2005, 01:11 PM

I'd like to visit germany at one time... Hopefully in the near future...

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 03-24-2005, 04:56 PM

It is very beautiful here to my friend, you would enjoy it.

hellmaker · 03-25-2005, 01:40 AM

I'm shure I would... I have a friend near Munchen that I havn't see in a long time... And I'd like to see you national museum of aviation...

Concorde247 · 03-25-2005, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mosquitoman

Hows about this one:

On the Eastern front, the Germans put up much more resistance so no Kursk and Stalingrad is taken. This of course leave France much less occupied so the Allies invade, taking Berlin. No cold War, no Cuba.

How about this,

What if the German army didnt pull up short of dunkirk and wait as they did, and they kept on going instead - this would have been a major disaster for us - We would have had the majority of the BEF captured. even though most of them returned, and they didnt have their arms, at least we had the troops.

Then if the luftwaffe hadnt switched from attacking our airfields to cities instead. due to the damage to our landing fields, we would have had to pull ALL our aircraft north of the thames giving the germans that air superiority for operation sealion that they needed. If the Royal navy had tried to interfere with the landing operations, they would have been mauled by the luftwaffe in the same manner that the Prince of Wales and the Renown were in the far east with the Japanese aircraft. With the German Blitzkrieg tactics and our troops short of arms I dont think that we could have held on for long. then the WHOLE of Europe would have been under their control. and the USA would have been hit by the U-boats constantly along their eastern coastline. and the Japanese would have taken over the East and also put pressure on the states on thier west coast.

trackend · 03-26-2005, 02:53 AM

I can see where you're coming from Concorde but operation sealion was a very make shift plan and I don't think it ever really had a chance of success I agree the air force would have had to pull back but if the threat of invasion had actually happened the landing barges (as that was all they really had to use) would have been decimated by the Air force and Navy even if it had meant throwing nearly ever thing at them and suffering heavy losses.

In my scenario the soviets fail to stop the German advance they link up with the Japanese the industrial power of the soviets is used by the Axies forces to enlarge there capabilitys this then means a planned fullscale assault on the Uk, it succeeds the US has no chance of a second front so interest is concentrated in the far east with a planned invasion by the axies powers via the Bering sea whilst the Japanse keep pressure on in the pacific theatre end result stale mate and a truce is signed in 1947. the A bomb is never deployed because of M.A.D
(bet that causes a few comment

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mosquitoman · 03-26-2005, 09:26 AM

If the Germans weren't stopped outside Moscow, that might've happened

hellmaker · 03-27-2005, 07:14 PM

I'm not shure about that. The USSR was quite a big nation, and it's Red Army was numerous, though ill prepared... Hitler came as prepared as Napoleon. He wasn't ready to deal with the long "Siberian winter". Many of his soldiers were lost due to this disadvantage... My guess is that the soviets would have fought to the las man. Stalin would have never accepted defeat... Germany would have had a chance having all of Europe fighting along side it...

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 03-28-2005, 12:30 PM

I dont really see Operation Sealion haveing succeded even if Dunkirk had failed to bring the BEF back to England. The Germans were not prepared eneogh for it. I do however seeing this as a possibility for the Germans to prepare better and take Russia.

Concorde247 · 03-28-2005, 01:15 PM

I remember that hitler once said that it was bad to have a secind front, but then he went & did it with russia.

IF he had attacked Russia before coming westwards then i think that things could have have been different, as the russian winter wasnt as severe in 1939/1940