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04-09-2005, 02:34 PM
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#91 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I'm not so sure about the British carrying on the war from Canada Lanc so much as the Royal family and the British Government buggering off and leaving all the rest off the population to stew. If as you suppose MP the invasion had succeeded I think the war would have gone on for at least several years longer as the only front would have been the far east having said that the Royal navy would still be a sizable force that could have been concentrated alongside the US and Commonwealth forces and they would not be tied up with convoy duties in the Atlantic an additional 10 or so carriers in the pacific fleet would have helped things a bit I'm sure
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04-09-2005, 03:34 PM
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#92 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | From what I can recall, and I can't find the sources at the moment to back this, Halifax (Nova Scotia) was to be the fall-back point for the Royal Navy in the event that Britain fell. Half of the convoys were already marshalling here anyway, so we could certainly handle the ships.
Also, Canada was already the training ground for Commonwealth aircrews and we were turning out our share of the war materials too.
I do believe we were to be the new HQ, if things had turned for the worst for Britain. It's just a good thing that it never came to that, eh?  |
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04-10-2005, 02:49 AM
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#93 | | Master of Ewes
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you know i reckon we could pull it off, you know, carrying on the war..........
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04-10-2005, 03:31 AM
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#94 | | Senior Member
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Country: | The Canadian material input I think is too often over looked Skim
Tanks, Planes,Ships, Arms ect excluding the man power.
My old man was issued with Canadian Ross rifle when he spent a few months in the home guard before joining the RN, he even had five rounds of ammo. He told me that he asked his Sargent what he was supposed to do with five rounds and the Sargent said "Kill one German, as there's 60,000 home guard if everyone does as I say the invasion will be over in bleeding double quick time". 
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04-10-2005, 05:48 AM
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#95 | | Master of Ewes
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true british-ish spirit..........
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04-10-2005, 08:48 AM
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#96 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Can't argue with that logic!  |
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04-10-2005, 10:26 AM
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04-10-2005, 10:51 AM
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#98 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | but you see if that was a british seargent, he'd expect atleast 4 dead germans outta your five bullets, the extra bullet would be your one and only practice round.........
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04-10-2005, 12:24 PM
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#99 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | The British would never have given up the fight even if they had to base out of Nova Scotia. But the point still remains that withouth better Logistics even a master tatician like Feld Marschal Erwin Rommel "The Desert Fox" could have pulled off the invasion of England. The proper logistics were not in place nor could they have been and remember the Battle of Britain was won by the British and withouth air supiriority Rommels army could not have won on the land or the beaches. I am not even sure that Rommel would have commanded the invasion.
Excuse me I just reread what was posted and I see that you did not mean Rommel commanding the Invasion but rather commandind the defending forces. I too agree with you that if Rommel had full command of everything at his disposal he may have been able to stop the invasion. As for bad weather and the Luftwaffe, it would not have mattered. Most of the Luftwaffe pilots were on leave back in Germany hence only 2 sorties were flown on D-Day by Oberst Josef "Pips" Priller (not sure if he actually was one of the pilots but I think so).
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04-10-2005, 01:58 PM
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#100 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Speaking personally fellas, I don't know if Rommel would have stopped the invasion or not had he been allowed full use of the Panzer forces but the slaughter would have been horrific like all landing beaches most are not that big (Omaha beach was 7000 yards but a lot of that was not easy to negotiate) so it tends to funnel the fighting into smaller pockets to avoid strongly defended areas of contact, or areas with better cover for the invading forces rather than maintain extended lines. I dread to think what it would have been like with Panzer units holding the high ground looking down on the landing fields.
Sorry to back track a bit lads the Seargent I referred to was a time serving WW1 vet and he had a son in the paras when my old man went home on leave one time he met him in a pub and the old boy was in a terrible state it turned out his boy had been killed at Arnhem. He took the news really badl. He never did get over it and died a couple of years later.
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04-10-2005, 03:24 PM
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#101 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | that's quite sad actually, but atleast he could say he was proud of his son..........
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04-10-2005, 04:02 PM
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#102 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I think he would have prefered his boy to come back but then that went for millions of parents.
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04-10-2005, 08:18 PM
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#103 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | It undoubtedly seemed like a hollow victory to the old man after losing his boy, but to echo lanc's sentiment, at least he went out fighting for an urgent cause. A hero, pure and simple.
I for one shall forever be grateful to him, and to all the other lads who never got to see the end of it. |
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04-11-2005, 01:28 PM
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#104 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Thanks for the help. also for the bit about the father and son. I agree that alot of families and children would have liked to have tfathers and sons home. Then in a generation we did it all again. What the world lost in life, in maybe a cure for cancer, or the next great prime minister. I think of the death in the Trenches, and a lot was from infection and sickness, and wounder ifthe Russians were not the better to just pull out?
If I would have had to fight in the war I would have wanted to fly, even if that life was expected to last only a few days. 
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04-11-2005, 01:34 PM
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#105 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | I would have liked to fly too I think. Sometimes, on the odd day, I feel like joining the US airforce when im older 
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