 | the slowst plane of ww2| Old Threads Discuss the slowst plane of ww2 in the Old Stuff forums; http://www.achtungpanzer.com/p1000.htm#1000
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08-10-2004, 12:03 PM
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08-10-2004, 12:17 PM
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| Well, quite... hmmm... impressive... (???) Honestly, I've never heard of this project.
Not only guns but also turret looks like taken straight from Gneisenau or Scharnhorst just with middle barrel missing. |
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08-10-2004, 01:06 PM
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is there a WW2 plane thet can shoot down a V1 buzboomb
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P-51D/K, Spitfire Mk.XII-Onward,Tempest Mk.V/VI, Meteor (Jet)...
| and the mossie, in fact most planes at 400mph plus could do it...................... Quote: |
Weight (combat ready): 1 tons
| now are you quite sure??
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08-10-2004, 02:05 PM
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Country: | Well, toffi, the turret was used in "Batterie Oerlander" near Trondheim. I had heard of the project before, but as it never left the drawing board not many people would have heard of it.
All the information is on that site. The King Tiger weighed 68 tonnes, so 1 tonne is just a bit out there.
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08-10-2004, 11:32 PM
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| It was to have been 35 meters long, 14 meters wide, 11 meters high.
The tracks were to be 3.6 meters wide.
Powerplants were either two MAN Marine Engines (8,500hp each) or 8x Daimlers at 2,000hp each.
Top Speed 40km/h
Weight~900000-1000000kg
Armament could have been: Two Naval (Gneiesnau/Scharnhorst, indeed!) 280mm Guns, Single 128mm, or eight Flak 38 20mm's and two Mg-151/15 15mm's.
P 1000 turret ended up at coastal defence battery (Batterie Oerlander) near Trondheim, Norway. Quote:
In December of 1942, Krupp created new design of 1500 ton tank - P 1500. It frontal armor would be 250mm thick and it would be armed with 800mm super heavy mortar "Dora" type and possibly two 150mm artillery pieces. P 1500 would be powered by two or four submarine diesel engines. In early 1943, Albert Speer cancelled both projects. P 1000 turret ended up at coastal defence battery (Batterie Oerlander) near Trondheim, Norway.
Even before P 1000 and P 1500, in 1939, Krupp began working on other similar projects for projected series of self-propelled coastal guns for the German Navy - Kriegsmarine. Series was to include 14 different platforms designated from R1 to R14. Armament was to range from 150mm to 380mm and it was to be mounted on fully traversible turntables on tracked carriages. One of the designs was R2 coastal gun armed with 280mm gun. The series never left drawing boards.
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08-10-2004, 11:36 PM
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| P-47Ms and P-61s also shot down buzzbombs.
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08-11-2004, 01:46 AM
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| if i remmber it was a turret from a battle ship on the ratte.
germens liked to build big. but the amrican soviet t-95 program thet was a meen tank they build it was low but long and waid it could match up with maus and king tiger. |
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08-11-2004, 01:50 AM
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| if i remmber it was a turret from a battle ship on the ratte.
germens liked to build big. but the amrican soviet t-95 program thet was a meen tank they build it was low but long and waid it could match up with maus and king tiger. |
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08-11-2004, 04:52 AM
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Country: | Just read the site, the turret on the P1000/1500 was used on Battery Oerlander in Trondheim. They look like Battleship turrets, because they basically were.
The T-95 was not Soviet, it was completely American. And it was useless too. Seeing as the T-95, Maus or P1000 never saw combat I don't know how you can ramble on about them being good.
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08-11-2004, 07:57 AM
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| the 95 was a joint soviet amrican project i know belive me. |
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08-11-2004, 08:56 AM
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Country: | You obviously don't know if you believe so. Is this coming from a person who said the P1000/1500 was 1 ton. Or that the turret was off a Battleship.
Do you want to look at some of the Soviet Experimental designs? http://www.battlefield.ru/kv_exp.html
Look on there.
The T28/T95 was a pure American AFV design and the first model was completed in September 1945, the second completed around the same time but lost to fire. The whole project was cancelled in October 1947.
Pacific Car & Foundry designed and built the T28/T95...and the Soviets had nothing to do with it.
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08-11-2004, 11:04 AM
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| ok im wronge and i agmit so get of my back. |
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08-11-2004, 12:34 PM
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Country: | I never was "on your back". I merely proved you to be incorrect, so now you've learned.
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08-11-2004, 01:10 PM
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Country: | don't worry about him nighthawk, he does that allot, it's the only way he can make himself feel good.....................
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08-11-2004, 01:14 PM
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Country: | What are you talking about!?! Should I have let him continued thinking that, when it was incorrect!?!
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