 | Is Spitfire relly superior to FW-190?| Old Threads Discuss Is Spitfire relly superior to FW-190? in the Old Stuff forums; Did the RAF only have the one Fw-190...that A-4 that landed in Wales?!... |
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06-06-2005, 11:04 PM
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Country:  | Did the RAF only have the one Fw-190...that A-4 that landed in Wales?!
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06-06-2005, 11:19 PM
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| Yes they only captured one.
It seems it was an A-3 which landed in Britain, not an A-4, and piloted by Armin Faber. (He landed safely in Britain by mistake  )
I remembered it as an A-4, oh well...
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06-06-2005, 11:36 PM
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Country: | Yeah, what a dumber he was. 
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06-06-2005, 11:37 PM
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#379 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country:  | Compare those stats to the A-8 and some of it R/U mods and we've got ourselves are real dogfight.......
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06-06-2005, 11:44 PM
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Country: | I thought the A-9 was the best 190A for dogfighting...
The XIV would still be superior and the IX still an equal.
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06-06-2005, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by plan_D Yeah, what a dumber he was. | If I was in his shoes, I would happily prefer imprisonment in Britain, rather than facing the squadron commander at home !
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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06-07-2005, 11:34 AM
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Country:  | I always thought the 190A-6 was the best 190A for dogfighting...
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06-07-2005, 01:48 PM
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Country: | I don't actually know, I was making the statement to get the views out of others.
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06-08-2005, 05:12 PM
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| So, is there a consensus here regarding to my question of "Is Spit. superior to Fw-190"?
My opion is that both fighters are close in terms of technical aspect, but Spit is much easy to fly than any German counterparts. In other words, it take less time to train a fresh airmen than in Fw-190. | |
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06-09-2005, 12:00 PM
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#385 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | It depends on the model. You can not compare a Spitfire XIV to an early 190A. Comparing a XIV to a 190A-4 is like comparing a Sherman to a Tiger or a Fw-190D-9 to a Spitfire Mk. V.
You compare a XIV to a A-8 or A-9 and you have a fight. You compare it to a D-9 and I think the compariosn would deffinatly swing in favor of the 190. If you compare it to a Ta-152H (which was basically an evolution of the D-9) then then the Spit is out of the competition.
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06-09-2005, 05:14 PM
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#386 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | but you want to be carefull there, i don't think we should count theTa-152 in this.........
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06-09-2005, 08:01 PM
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| Why not, it saw service...
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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06-10-2005, 09:56 AM
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#388 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I agree with Lanc here it is technically not a Fw-190. It is an evolution of it but it is not a Butcher Bird.
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06-10-2005, 07:02 PM
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Country: | The Spitfire Mk.XIV would be able to cope with any Fw-190A and it would come down to pilot skill against the D-9. To compare the Spitfire XIV against the Ta-152 is a little unfair as it did see service but the Spitfire XVIII was coming into service by the end of the war. XVIII against Ta152 would be better.
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06-11-2005, 02:14 AM
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| "It is an evolution of it but it is not a Butcher Bird."
How did Fw-190 got its nickname as infamous Butcher Bird?
How about Spit? Did German had name for Spit.? | |
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