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07-01-2004, 01:12 PM
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Country:  | a good weapon that the Russians had during the war was the Mp 18 and was also a sub-machine gun like the thompson
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07-01-2004, 01:15 PM
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#32 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | although aparaently the thompson was hard on the hands.....................
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07-01-2004, 01:16 PM
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Country: | yea i agree (probably the semi-automatic trigger or the recoil, either one)
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07-01-2004, 01:18 PM
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Country: | it was alround a good gun though.....................
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07-01-2004, 02:09 PM
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The Stg. 44 was heavy, not as heavy as the BAR or Bren but it had the range and accuracy of a rifle and automatic capability. It was the worlds first assault rifle.
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07-01-2004, 11:55 PM
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| The Thompson may have been hard on the hands, but it was even harder on the enemy.
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07-02-2004, 02:41 AM
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Country: | The PPsH 43 was better, and easier to produce.
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07-02-2004, 01:22 PM
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#38 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | now if you're looking for ease of manufacture, you'll be wanting a sten.....................
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07-02-2004, 03:05 PM
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Country:  | Yes the BAR was a beast but what fire power and it had range.
The AK-47 was not in any way related to the German rigle. They were developed seperatly. That from the designer himself. Also the Stg.44 was in very small numbers for the SS and other specail units.
A tompson whold be hard on you, think of all that .45 rounds firing off, the recoil was prity good. 
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07-02-2004, 04:08 PM
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| Actually, it was based on the Stg. 43/44 as they were available in large numbers since most of the 500,000 made were deployed to the Eastern front (later to the BotB).
Regular Infantry got it too, but mostly NCO's, not Unteroffizers (privates). | |
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07-03-2004, 02:52 AM
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Country: | GrG, again, is correct. It is quite simple to see that the Ak-47 was based off the Stg.44 by simply looking at the two. And the fact that the Stg.44 was 3 years previous to the Ak-47 and some 500,000 STG.44s were still being used by East German forces after the war makes it a simple task of recognising the who copied who.
The BAR wasn't a great gun, it was an infantry support weapon, greatly inferior to the Bren.
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07-03-2004, 06:34 AM
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07-03-2004, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass now if you're looking for ease of manufacture, you'll be wanting a sten..................... | Or an M3 "Grease Gun"
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07-03-2004, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass but if you're looking for a copy of the AK-47, has anyone seen the Chinese type 56?? | But thats a direct copy, it's different than the Russians basing their gun on the Stg.43/44.
It's kinda like the Tu-4 Bull, a direct (and better) Russian copy of two B-29's that landed in Russia.
It was better because each of the turrets had twin Ns-23 23mm cannon.
Only real difference.
Oh yeah, China might still operate their licence (yes, a licence built aircraft based on an unlicenced copy aircraft) built turboprop powered copies as AWACS aircraft.
They used to, at least... | |
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07-03-2004, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass now if you're looking for ease of manufacture, you'll be wanting a sten..................... | Or an M3 "Grease Gun" | i doubt they could be produced faster than the sten......................
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