 | What If......| Old Threads Discuss What If...... in the Old Stuff forums; Both the prototype Ju-87 and the prototype 109 flew with a Rolls-Royce Kestrel. And I think some of ... |
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05-20-2004, 11:47 PM
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| Both the prototype Ju-87 and the prototype 109 flew with a Rolls-Royce Kestrel. And I think some of the post-war 109s ended up using Merlins.
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05-21-2004, 08:33 AM
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Country:  | Why would I defend the 'Vulture' engine? Even then Rolls Royce is still the top engine builder, Boeing have said they prefer to work with Rolls Royce than P&W. Boeing 747s engines used to be P&W soon replaced by Rolls Royce engines.
The Spanish built Ha-1112 (Hispano 109s) had the Rolls Royce Merlin in it. And the last one rolled off the production line in 1958, 23 years and 33,000 109s later than the first.
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05-21-2004, 12:55 PM
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| I was talking about in the military market for engines. I'm not aware of any Rolls-Royce design that can compare with the P&W F-119.
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05-21-2004, 01:21 PM
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Country: | what planes are this engine used in??
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05-21-2004, 01:22 PM
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| It is going to be used in the F-22 Raptor and a modified version will be used in the upcoming F-35.
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05-21-2004, 01:27 PM
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05-21-2004, 01:29 PM
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| The F-35 is the JSF.
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05-21-2004, 01:32 PM
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Country: | ah, sorry, it's just i've never heard it called that before.......................
back to "what if"s, what would have happened if the germans had a succesfull heavy bomber early in the war..............
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05-21-2004, 03:08 PM
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05-21-2004, 11:25 PM
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| Well, against Britain it was the bomber tactics that hurt the Germans rather than bomber size (ie, attacking London rather than RAF fields). If the Germans had continue to attack the RAF, the Heinkels, Junkers, and Dorniers would have been more than equal to the task. Dropping more bombs on London, however, was unlikely to change anything. A true heavy bomber would have been of more use attack Soviet industry on the other side of the Urals.
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05-22-2004, 10:16 AM
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Country: | It's not a P&W that is going in the JSF. That's a Rolls Royce engine as well, it has been from the start. Why do you think it is called a Joint Strike Fighter? It's going to be an American design, based around a British Rolls Royce engine. Of which, they have not yet named.
And most of the P&W designs were either copies of Rolls Royce engines, or later development. Even Boeing (who make military equipment as well) and Lockheed have admitted they would rather have Rolls Royce build them an engine than any other.
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05-22-2004, 12:00 PM
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| Well, whatever may be going in the British JSF, the test models are flying with a modified P&W F-119 with the GE F-120 designated as an alternate.
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05-22-2004, 01:50 PM
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Country: | so rolls royce are the rolls royce of engines??
sorry, couldn't resist...............
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05-24-2004, 03:00 PM
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LG, the JSF is flying with P&W engines because the Rolls Royce aren't yet ready, but the production models will be using RW engines. The idea of the whole engine exhaust pointing down to lift the plane was a RW design.
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