 | What makes an ace?| Old Threads Discuss What makes an ace? in the Old Stuff forums; I don't believe that. Especially the A-10 ones. Unless they had just got off the deck, then in ... |
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07-29-2004, 11:37 PM
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Country:  | I don't believe that. Especially the A-10 ones. Unless they had just got off the deck, then in my books that's not an air-to-air kill. What was shot down?
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07-29-2004, 11:53 PM
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| The A-10 kills are reported (in detail) in a magazine I have (not with me unfortunately). At least one (and I believe both) were over Mi-8 'Hip' helicopters. In both instances, the pilots attempted to engage with the AIM-9s recently added to Hog's arsenal. However, neither pilot could get a tone and so they both resorted to using the GAU-8. 30mm DU rounds will make very short work of any helicopter.
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07-30-2004, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Lightning Guy 30-60 planes today to become an ace?... | Sorry about the giant miscalculation!  I was just thinking of how difficult it would be to get an Air-to-air kill these days, as opposed to during WWII.
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07-30-2004, 12:30 AM
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Country:  | Plan d... If u doubt the research done by Tom Clancy, whose research can u trust in??
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07-30-2004, 02:47 AM
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Country: | There's no doubt in my mind the cannon on the A-10 could destroy a Hip. It's still unbelievable, if only through shock.
If you blindly follow all, then you'll never find anything. Every historian, or military expert has made mistakes. I would believe it much easier if I knew the planes downed.
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07-30-2004, 01:17 PM
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Country: | hehe, that's true, we had a history lesson on the BoB the other day, the teacher kept making mistakes so i had to correct him in front of the whole class................
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07-30-2004, 02:17 PM
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| Well, I've seen the accounts of the A-10 kills in more than one source. Checking the total number of kills, sources seem to vary, but the total for the Gulf War appears to be right around 40.
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07-31-2004, 06:39 AM
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Country: | so pretty much their entire air force  ................
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07-31-2004, 03:20 PM
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| Actually the Iraqis had a fairly impressive on paper. Most of them were blown up in their HAS. The ones that weren't mostly ran for Iran. Very few of them came up to fight but even fewer lived to tell about it.
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07-31-2004, 07:15 PM
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Country: | They also had one of the largest men armies in the world. Until we blew it up in '90 then again in '03. They just never learn.
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07-31-2004, 07:59 PM
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Country: | Their army was never a real concern 4 us... I witnessed many things in the first Gulf War, one of which was the surrendering of 35 Iraqis to a Kiowa Scout Helicopter, with NO armament...
In a nighttime interdiction, we witnessed 6 Iraqi soldiers get executed by their commander because they were attempting to convice their buddies to surrender... We ended up killing most of em in the ensuing firefight...
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07-31-2004, 08:03 PM
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Country: | I know a lot of stories from my dad about the Gulf. And he was in the desert not back in Saudi.
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07-31-2004, 08:04 PM
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Country: | What branch and unit did ur dad serve in???
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07-31-2004, 08:09 PM
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Country: | R.A.F - attached to Chinook Middle East squadron (In the Gulf). Which was a mixture of RAF Chinook squadrons. He served out on a F.O.B which was somewhere in Iraq. For the Special Forces doing their duty further into Iraq.
Two tents and two Chinooks aren't the best company, but the SLR and LMG makes up for it.
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07-31-2004, 08:19 PM
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Country: | Very cool... I saw ur other post about ur Dad...
The worst thing about being deployed are MRE's... I couldnt stand 3/4's of em... The smell of ham and potatoes were enough to make me vomit...
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