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05-23-2004, 06:45 PM
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Country:  | Did anyone say the Manchester was the worst plane of the war? I think it was brad that came up with that, most of us are in agreement I think on the B-25 Roc being the worst.
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05-24-2004, 07:16 AM
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| The Breda Ba.65 would get my vote for the worst. A lot of units in the Regia Aeronautica flew and everybody hated it. Underpowered and and the flight caracteristics of a brick. | |
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05-24-2004, 10:54 AM
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Country:  | the breda 88 wasnt that great either 
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05-24-2004, 02:08 PM
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| Nothing the Italians produced en mass was really that outstanding. They had some good designs coming online but most of them only made it to a prototype or testing stage.
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05-24-2004, 02:40 PM
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Country: | How do you think the Breda Ba.65 compares to the B-25 Roc? I mean the Roc wasn't exactly liked, it was just a stupidly poor plane. Little tactical value, and a failure all round.
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05-25-2004, 01:23 PM
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Country: | i don't think anyone has ever produced a truely effective turret fighter have they??
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05-25-2004, 10:56 PM
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| The Defiant was probably as close as anyone got, and that's not saying much. The turrets were just too bulky to keep decent performance and maneuvaerability.
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05-26-2004, 11:50 AM
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Country: | The idea was flawed, and I think it came from the WW1 idea of moving fortresses, only these would be in the air. They weren't really big enough for that, therefore poor. Well even the big ones weren't very good, on their own, but at least they were bombers.
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05-26-2004, 01:09 PM
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Country: | i think they could have been improved with a couple of forward firing guns.................
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05-26-2004, 01:38 PM
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| The guns on the Defiant could be positioned to fire forwards. But I don't think the lack of forward firing guns is what hurt the turret-armed fighters. Their performance was just pathetic. It is interesting to look at the fighter concepts that developed between the world wars. I think the Bell Airacuda is one of the most interesting ideas for a turret armed fighter ever (pathetic but interesting).
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05-26-2004, 02:43 PM
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The guns on the Defiant could be positioned to fire forwards
| yes but it was difficult to do, in the event of a front al attack the gunnt isn't gonna be able to turn the turret in time...................
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05-26-2004, 11:03 PM
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| True, but how often was a Defiant going to get onto the tail of a 109 in the first place? A dogfight between a Defiant and a 110 might have been interesting though.
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05-27-2004, 10:06 AM
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Country: | I think that would have been victory to the Bf-110, it was very heavily armed, and could get on the tail of a Defiant. If the Defiant got on the tail of the 110 it had its own rear defence.
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05-27-2004, 01:39 PM
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| I was just wondering. The 110 was the only Luftwaffe fighter that the Defiant might have had half a chance against.
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05-27-2004, 03:22 PM
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Country: | it think if the 110 got on the tail of the defaint not realising it was a turret fighter the 110 would go down.............
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