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03-03-2004, 02:39 PM
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#46 | | Master of Ewes
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03-03-2004, 04:06 PM
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| I've read elsewhere too that the P-108 was similar to most Allied heavy bombers in terms of weapons, speed and other performance figures (They often compare it to the Avro Lancaster) but surprise surprise it was poor commanding and misuse of reasources by the Italian airforce (not enough bombers taking part in raids etc) that lead to the aircraft not recieving enough praise for its efforts.
If the Italians had been better at... well, fighting the war may have had a few nastier campaigns in it than it already had 
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03-03-2004, 04:46 PM
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#49 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | yup, darn italians...... oh well, i still think he p-108 was a great plane, despite it being not very wel known, or very good for that matter 
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03-03-2004, 04:47 PM
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03-03-2004, 07:20 PM
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Nah the Argies would just throw an air to ground missile at it and that would be its lot
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An F-15E destroyed an Iraqi Hughes 500 by hitting it with a laser-guided bomb.
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03-04-2004, 10:01 AM
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| Oh yeah Cheddar - i read somewhere the other day that Benito Mussolinis son Bruno was killed whilst flying a P-108...so it does have a huge claim to fame! 
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03-04-2004, 11:39 AM
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03-04-2004, 11:40 AM
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#54 | | Hairy one of Old Judea
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Country: | The Italians were simply under-resourced. Where the front-line fighting untis received the resources they needed they were as good as any in WW2.
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RUSSIA
August - Russians near Serafimovich launch a counterattack against the Italians holding the Don River in the hope of holding back the advances to Stalingrad. The Italians were outnumbered yet told to stand their ground and fight to the end. They eventually beat back the Russian tanks with Molotov cocktails. The battle in Serafimovich cost the Italians 1,700 men, but captured were 1,600 Russian POW's and many small arms.
August 24 - With the victory in Serafimovich, the Italian Savoia Cavalry made up of 600 men mounted a counter attack on the Isbuschenski steppe. The Russian's forces were comprised of 2,000 men with mortar and artillery support. One squadron of cavalry attacked head on, while the other came behind the enemy lines on horseback and possessing only sabers. They caught the Soviets completely by surprise and overran the Russian position.
This was one of the last calvary attacks of World War II and resulted in the destruction of 2 Soviet battalions, another battalion forced to withdraw and the netting of 500 POW's, 4 large artillery pieces, 10 Mortars, and 50 machine guns.
bravery was definatly NOT a question
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03-04-2004, 12:44 PM
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03-05-2004, 12:18 PM
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| Did anyone hear the one about the Italian tank? two forward gears six reverse! 
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03-05-2004, 12:20 PM
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| Seriously though in the world of crap fighters who are badly organised the top 3 have to rank as this:
1) France
2) Italy
3) Russia
So its no surprise the Italians managed to beat the Russians....anyway because the Russians were fighting the Italians they probably expected a one sided victory for them and besides...theres nothing like the threat of death to galvonise you on to victory is there? 
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03-05-2004, 02:05 PM
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#58 | | Master of Ewes
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03-05-2004, 06:44 PM
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#59 | | Facetious Extraordinaire
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass or the threat of being forced to listen to an hour of "bbc parliament"  | Watching it is worse
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03-06-2004, 04:57 AM
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#60 | | Master of Ewes
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