 | WWII aircraft ready time| Old Threads Discuss WWII aircraft ready time in the Old Stuff forums; WWII was fought against NAZI GERMANY, not Germany.... If a German pilot is flying for Nazi Germany, HES A FREAKIN ... |
|
08-11-2004, 07:00 PM
|
#16 | | Minister of Whoopass
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
Posts: 13,270
Country: | WWII was fought against NAZI GERMANY, not Germany.... If a German pilot is flying for Nazi Germany, HES A FREAKIN NAZI...... The Germans that werent Nazi were Jewish....
There were many pilots who were loyal to the Nazi party and called themselves Nazi....
The Swastica is a sign of Nazi Germany, not Germany...And since when is calling a Jewish person Jewish harsh??? What are u GrG, a freakin moron???
And for the record, I was usin the word "NAZI" as a slang word....
__________________ "After That Second Kill, I Knew It Was Time To Get The Hell Outta There..."
-- Lt. William Northrop Case
To See My IL2 Sturmovik Video Tribute to My Grandfather, Click Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk |
| |
08-11-2004, 07:03 PM
|
#17 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,061
Country: | Not all those fighting for Germany, were National Socialist. And World War II was fought against the Axis.
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. |
| |
08-11-2004, 07:47 PM
|
#18 | | Minister of Whoopass
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
Posts: 13,270
Country: | Thank you for pointing out the blatently obvious... Nazi Germany was part of the Axis powers...
Anyone with half a brain already understood that... U pointing out that point was irrelevant... The discussion, incase u missed it, was Germany vs Nazi Germany....
And once again, I was using Nazi as a SLANG word... Not all Germans fighting in WW2 were of the Nazi party... Duh... But they fought for Nazi Germany..... Theres a difference..... And the point I was trying to make....
__________________ "After That Second Kill, I Knew It Was Time To Get The Hell Outta There..."
-- Lt. William Northrop Case
To See My IL2 Sturmovik Video Tribute to My Grandfather, Click Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk |
| |
08-11-2004, 11:23 PM
|
#19 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,043
| Quote: |
Originally Posted by lesofprimus WWII was fought against NAZI GERMANY, not Germany.... If a German pilot is flying for Nazi Germany, HES A FREAKIN NAZI...... The Germans that werent Nazi were Jewish....
There were many pilots who were loyal to the Nazi party and called themselves Nazi....
The Swastica is a sign of Nazi Germany, not Germany...And since when is calling a Jewish person Jewish harsh??? What are u GrG, a freakin moron???
And for the record, I was usin the word "NAZI" as a slang word.... |
Tut, tut...
If a Pole flew for the British in the BoB, is he British?
The Germans that weren't NAZSOS (Don't say this is a typo, it isn't.) could have been Communists or Democrats, etc.
The Swastika is a Hindu symbol dating hundreds of years back...
I said I THOUGHT, IN MY OPINION, that calling someone "Jew" seems a bit harsh.
You yourself said MANY were loyal to Hitler, not all.
Many can be used many ways.
"Many members here reside in Europe, though not all."
Have you ever heard of Herr Franz Stigler?
I'll assume you haven't.
Anywho, he was a German fighter pilot in WWII who had a total of 39 kills when the war ended while he was with Jv44.
He could have had 40 and a Knight's Cross because of that tally.
He saved a crew for compassion, which in the Third Reich, letting an enemy escape and thus not fulfilling your duty, was punishable upon death.
Who's the moron now?  :P  |
| |
08-12-2004, 12:40 AM
|
#20 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,512
| Lanc . . . I believe the specific question was for launching a carrier strike thus the resources available would be fairly consistent.
__________________ |
| |
08-12-2004, 05:37 AM
|
#21 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,061
Country: | I'm completely with GrG on this one. Just because they fought for Nazi Germany, it doesn't make them a Nazi. Erwin Rommel wasn't a Nazi. And I pointed out that the war was against the Axis because so many people forget that there were more than Germany.
HOWEVER, Von Braun (The rocket scientist of the Third Reich) was a National Socialist. And was part of the SS.
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. |
| |
08-12-2004, 07:53 AM
|
#22 | | Minister of Whoopass
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
Posts: 13,270
Country: | Your still a moron with ur last comments...
"The Swastika is a Hindu symbol dating hundreds of years back..."
While this is may be true, Nazi Germany still used it as a symbol and is remembered as such... Not a hindu symbol....
"If a Pole flew for the British in the BoB, is he British?"
Probably the dumbest statement I've ever seen here...
Hes a Pole fighting for Britian.. If it were Nazi Britian, he'd be flying for Nazi Britian...
And for the freakin 3rd godddamn time, the word Nazi can be used 2 ways... Nazi as in political affiliation, and Nazi as in the country's political stance...
American is a democracy, but not all Americans are democrat...
I was using the slang term Nazi for this discussion, not the political stances of indiviual pilots and whatnot...
__________________ "After That Second Kill, I Knew It Was Time To Get The Hell Outta There..."
-- Lt. William Northrop Case
To See My IL2 Sturmovik Video Tribute to My Grandfather, Click Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk |
| |
08-12-2004, 07:56 AM
|
#23 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,061
Country: | Yes, so Germany was a National Socialist country but not all Germans were National Socialist. Simple.
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. |
| |
08-12-2004, 08:08 AM
|
#24 | | Minister of Whoopass
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
Posts: 13,270
Country: | This is true and an obvious statement... I did not say "Of the Nazi Party", just Nazi, slangwise...
__________________ "After That Second Kill, I Knew It Was Time To Get The Hell Outta There..."
-- Lt. William Northrop Case
To See My IL2 Sturmovik Video Tribute to My Grandfather, Click Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk |
| |
08-12-2004, 08:34 AM
|
#25 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,061
Country: | You could have just said Jerry, Kraut, Bosch or something. 
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. |
| |
08-12-2004, 10:29 AM
|
#26 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,043
| Quote: |
Originally Posted by lesofprimus Your still a moron with ur last comments...
"The Swastika is a Hindu symbol dating hundreds of years back..."
While this is may be true, Nazi Germany still used it as a symbol and is remembered as such... Not a hindu symbol....
"If a Pole flew for the British in the BoB, is he British?"
Probably the dumbest statement I've ever seen here...
Hes a Pole fighting for Britian.. If it were Nazi Britian, he'd be flying for Nazi Britian...
And for the freakin 3rd godddamn time, the word Nazi can be used 2 ways... Nazi as in political affiliation, and Nazi as in the country's political stance...
American is a democracy, but not all Americans are democrat...
I was using the slang term Nazi for this discussion, not the political stances of indiviual pilots and whatnot... | Goddamn...
What it's remembered as doesn't change what it is.
You changed the subject about Britain, I meant "does a Pole become British if he flys for them?," since you said "If he flys for NAZI Germany hes a freaking NAZI"
If you paid attention, I said "Communist, democrats, etc." et cetera is basically "and more" when translated from Latin. Democrat was an example.
I never said anything about using "Nazi" as slang, so I don't know why you have to reiterate it three times.
:P  |
| |
08-12-2004, 10:32 AM
|
#27 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,043
| Oh, and for the record, yes, I am a smug little bastard. |
| |
08-12-2004, 01:33 PM
|
#28 | | Master of Ewes
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 19,959
Country: |  ............
__________________ 
"Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy." |
| |
08-12-2004, 02:05 PM
|
#29 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,061
Country: | Hah!! I like it. 
__________________ "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004  To those in that club. |
| |
08-12-2004, 06:37 PM
|
#30 | | Minister of Whoopass
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
Posts: 13,270
Country: | I'm 38, so I think i know the meaning of ect... Next time I need some help, Ill make sure I ask u 4 it...
Ur comparison makes no sense then... Ur pole/brit statement concerns countries, while mine was political...
Not all Germans were Nazi.... True...
Not all Pilots were Nazi.... True...
I was making a broad general statement when I said "has a pic of a nazi aircraft in his siggy."
The slang version, not the political one...
If a plane is manufatured in Nazi Germany, it a Nazi German Aircraft...
If it was designed for Nazi Germany, its a Nazi German Aircraft...
Those are general statements...
The Nazi Party decided to exterminate millions of people...
That is a political statement...
"If a German pilot is flying for Nazi Germany, HES A FREAKIN NAZI..."
That statement I made was politically incorrect... I should have put "HE'S PROBABLY A FREAKIN NAZI..."
Or maybe to make u feel better, "THERE'S A 75% CHANCE HE'S A NAZI..."
Point is, I was makin a joke concerning the Israeli kid usin a Nazi German Aircraft for his siggy...
__________________ "After That Second Kill, I Knew It Was Time To Get The Hell Outta There..."
-- Lt. William Northrop Case
To See My IL2 Sturmovik Video Tribute to My Grandfather, Click Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk |
| | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:27 AM. |  | |