Just a quick one! - Aircraft of World War II

Lucky13 · 02-01-2009, 09:14 AM

How soon can I apply the Johnson Klear to a model? As with the '109 and '190 of mine that's been painted with Vallejo Air, can I do it after a few hours, the same day or should I wait until the next?

Cheers chaps!

lesofprimus · 02-01-2009, 09:38 AM

I would wait until the next day... I know its hard to keep ur hands off of it when the end is so near, but if the paint isnt 100% dry, u may experience some problems....

Wait a day man.....

Lucky13 · 02-01-2009, 10:02 AM

Cheers bro! Then I'll do just that....(d*mn!)! Also just noticed that I almost forgot the light green that's behind the 13, better do that now, before I forget it again....

Wayne Little · 02-02-2009, 05:32 AM

If you're not sure then leave it a day as Dan says...better to be safe than sorry.....when you get used to the paints you will have a better idea on when to aply the gloss safely...

With my tamiya acrylics I can put the gloss on within half an hour if I choose to but as you know my pencil lines and Pastels usually will chew up a few days before the gloss goes on.....

Lucky13 · 02-02-2009, 07:24 AM

Cheers guys! Here's another one, is there any time limit as to how soon or how long you can wait, before you apply the matt over it all? I just noticed that I have the wrong Vallejo paint, I have the Vallejo matt and satin finish in Model Color instead for Air... (b*ll*cks!)....so I'll have to order those.
Can I start doing the decals now, and do the final matt finish next week or am I better off leaving it all alone, until that I have the correct ones?

Wurger · 02-02-2009, 08:10 AM

I think Jan you can apply these decals now then leave the model for a day or two and then put the matt cote on it.If you postpone this for a week even, there will nothing wrong happen with it.

To be honest I don't know why most guys here try to be rushaholics.I repeat, modelling is not a bakery.There is no need to be in a hurry.There is an old Polish say for that "Jak się człowiek spieszy to się diabeł cieszy".It means that a lot of mistakes can be make when somebody rushes.Paint manufacturers say their colours can be dry in two to four hours.Hurray !!!
But later all of us have some troubles with peeling the paints off or cracked decals like Cory for instance.

Lucky13 · 02-02-2009, 08:57 AM

Thank you kindly! That's why I ask young Master Wojtek. I'm just as comfortable to leave these two birds alone until that I have everything I need. Can always start another build, can't I?

Ooops....look at that, I just did, the Heinkel He 219A-7!

Off to get it washed!

Wurger · 02-02-2009, 09:07 AM

Yes you can.

Airframes · 02-02-2009, 10:14 AM

Yep, I'm with Wojtek. The longer the better, and there's no rush because, as you say, you can always start another kit. Now, where did I put that Hunter.....

Lucky13 · 02-02-2009, 10:50 AM

That's one of the reasons why have more than one build old fruit....keep my itchy fingers busy!

Wurger · 02-02-2009, 11:01 AM

Itchy....rather beerchy.

Airframes · 02-02-2009, 03:03 PM

It is a well known, and proven, medical fact, that itchy fingers are caused by a severe depletion of the correct intake of beer in the human diet. The reccomendations, generally, are that you visit the pub more often or, if severe snow prevents this, have an order delivered by Tesco's, in order to imbibe at least half a gallon. However, it has also been proven that excess intake of the said liquid, can result in the dubious quality of any modelling work undertaken directly after imbibing the said liquids. But, who gives a d*mn when you've got that floatly warm feeling?!!

Wayne Little · 02-05-2009, 05:46 AM

Jeez.....I feel the BS level rising.....

Wurger · 02-05-2009, 07:17 AM

Airframes · 02-05-2009, 01:11 PM

Hic! Howsh cumsh dish model ish bright dayglo green? Should be camouf...cemoalf....sand coloured! Hic!

02-01-2009, 09:14 AM	#1
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,144	Just a quick one! How soon can I apply the Johnson Klear to a model? As with the '109 and '190 of mine that's been painted with Vallejo Air, can I do it after a few hours, the same day or should I wait until the next? Cheers chaps! __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

02-01-2009, 09:38 AM	#2
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,503	I would wait until the next day... I know its hard to keep ur hands off of it when the end is so near, but if the paint isnt 100% dry, u may experience some problems.... Wait a day man..... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

02-01-2009, 10:02 AM	#3
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,144	Cheers bro! Then I'll do just that....(d*mn!)! Also just noticed that I almost forgot the light green that's behind the 13, better do that now, before I forget it again.... __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

02-02-2009, 05:32 AM	#4
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 12,511	If you're not sure then leave it a day as Dan says...better to be safe than sorry.....when you get used to the paints you will have a better idea on when to aply the gloss safely... With my tamiya acrylics I can put the gloss on within half an hour if I choose to but as you know my pencil lines and Pastels usually will chew up a few days before the gloss goes on..... __________________

02-02-2009, 07:24 AM	#5
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,144	Cheers guys! Here's another one, is there any time limit as to how soon or how long you can wait, before you apply the matt over it all? I just noticed that I have the wrong Vallejo paint, I have the Vallejo matt and satin finish in Model Color instead for Air... (bllcks!)....so I'll have to order those. Can I start doing the decals now, and do the final matt finish next week or am I better off leaving it all alone, until that I have the correct ones? __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

02-02-2009, 08:10 AM	#6
Wurger Siggy Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 13,972	I think Jan you can apply these decals now then leave the model for a day or two and then put the matt cote on it.If you postpone this for a week even, there will nothing wrong happen with it. To be honest I don't know why most guys here try to be rushaholics.I repeat, modelling is not a bakery.There is no need to be in a hurry.There is an old Polish say for that "Jak się człowiek spieszy to się diabeł cieszy".It means that a lot of mistakes can be make when somebody rushes.Paint manufacturers say their colours can be dry in two to four hours.Hurray !!! But later all of us have some troubles with peeling the paints off or cracked decals like Cory for instance. __________________ Last edited by Wurger; 02-02-2009 at 08:21 AM.

02-02-2009, 08:57 AM	#7
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,144	Thank you kindly! That's why I ask young Master Wojtek. I'm just as comfortable to leave these two birds alone until that I have everything I need. Can always start another build, can't I? Ooops....look at that, I just did, the Heinkel He 219A-7! Off to get it washed! __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

02-02-2009, 09:07 AM	#8
Wurger Siggy Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 13,972	Yes you can. __________________

02-02-2009, 10:14 AM	#9
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,062	Yep, I'm with Wojtek. The longer the better, and there's no rush because, as you say, you can always start another kit. Now, where did I put that Hunter..... __________________

02-02-2009, 10:50 AM	#10
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,144	That's one of the reasons why have more than one build old fruit....keep my itchy fingers busy! __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

02-02-2009, 11:01 AM	#11
Wurger Siggy Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 13,972	Itchy....rather beerchy. __________________

02-02-2009, 03:03 PM	#12
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,062	It is a well known, and proven, medical fact, that itchy fingers are caused by a severe depletion of the correct intake of beer in the human diet. The reccomendations, generally, are that you visit the pub more often or, if severe snow prevents this, have an order delivered by Tesco's, in order to imbibe at least half a gallon. However, it has also been proven that excess intake of the said liquid, can result in the dubious quality of any modelling work undertaken directly after imbibing the said liquids. But, who gives a d*mn when you've got that floatly warm feeling?!! __________________

02-05-2009, 05:46 AM	#13
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 12,511	Jeez.....I feel the BS level rising..... __________________

02-05-2009, 07:17 AM	#14
Wurger Siggy Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 13,972	__________________

02-05-2009, 01:11 PM	#15
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,062	Hic! Howsh cumsh dish model ish bright dayglo green? Should be camouf...cemoalf....sand coloured! Hic! __________________

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