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03-16-2008, 08:58 PM
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03-17-2008, 04:21 AM
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03-17-2008, 08:31 AM
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Country: | Uhh because Kangaroos are causing problems because of overpopulation and whales are an endangered species? Am I missing something?
Oh and how dare America criticize the Nazi Holocaust while having capitial punishment for murderers? 
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03-17-2008, 08:42 AM
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Country: | Are they causing over-population problems? Around places like Canberra I would have thought it was the human population that was doing the overcrowding. |
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03-17-2008, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by freebird Uhh because Kangaroos are causing problems because of overpopulation and whales are an endangered species? Am I missing something? | Spot on!
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03-17-2008, 11:18 AM
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Country: | Kangaroos are culled for particular reasons. Mainly its due to over population of the species in certain areas which causes problems in competition with resources. But the Culls are conducted by professional shooters. But unfortunately the Japanese who like to nit pick don't actually see this arguement and have decided it is hypocracy by Australia and other leading Western Countries who are Anti Whaling. It is just smoke screening the issue on whether we cull prolific Animals for the enviroment or the Japanese Hunt Endangered Species. To date the Japanese all so take AntArtic Fish Species and various types of Krill found in the AntArtic regions. Which are food sources to various types of wildlife in this region. Wildlife ranging from Whales to Seals and myrids of sea bird species. Fishing has been banned in the Australian Antartic Territory since the early 1980s. But the Japanese as usual ignore this and continue sending in Illegal Fishing Boats in to these waters.
But the only reason why Japan is protesting the Culling of Kangaroos is basically it is inspired by the Japanese Whaling Industry. Who would like unrestricted whaling where ever they pleased. So it boils down to money as usual. It has nothing to do with saving kangaroos as far as the Japanese Whaling Industry is concerned. It is just a smoke screen so the Japanese Whaling Industry can continue as is unhindered. In other words it is a type of Japanese Hypocracy based on CASH FLOW |
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03-17-2008, 01:31 PM
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Country: | Perhaps Australia should send a few 1,000 of the poor 'Roos to Tokyo to bounce around there. Be sure that each one is wearing a pair of boxing gloves...
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03-18-2008, 11:23 AM
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Country: | And a sub machine gun around their necks in case the Ginza Faggots get funny Freebird |
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03-22-2008, 02:21 AM
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Country: | In colorado we have deer and elk overpopulation, and they keep saying they are going to have to hunt them soon on a grand scale. But probably some of the wildlife conservationists would get pretty mad.
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03-23-2008, 07:02 PM
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| Why anti whailing?? it`s very good food.Try it.. its really good |
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03-24-2008, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by zerum Why anti whailing?? it`s very good food.Try it.. its really good | The problem is that it's an endangered species, if we continue to over-fish & over-hunt then the stocks will collapse, as happened with Cod in the North Atlantic. The Starving Ocean
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03-24-2008, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by zerum Why anti whailing?? it`s very good food.Try it.. its really good | It may well be to you Zerum. But its illogical to hunt a species to extinction because it tastes good. Try and figure out the phrase ENDANGERED SPECIES. Endangered meaning near or possible extinction. Now the word Extinction literally means once that species has died out for what ever reason whether it be caused by man or nature. Means that species doesn't exsist any more. And then it doesn't matter if that species in this case whales taste good or not. It will definitely be of the menu because it no longer exsists on this planet. |
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03-24-2008, 08:13 PM
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Country: | Emac how can the Japanese get away with fishing in the Australian Antarctic territory?
If they were to allow the Japs to take say 5 whales, and then simply to turn away the rest {amid howls of protest no doubt} and tell them that if they really need A THOUSAND more dead whale carcasses for "scientific research" then let them take it up at the world court.
This is what Canada should have done with the Spanish, Portugese & whoever fishing the Cod stocks to extinction. The government was wringing its hands saying they couldn't do anything about the foreign fleets.
Of course today there is no problem with foreign boats overfishing because THERE ARE NO FISH LEFT.
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03-24-2008, 09:56 PM
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Country: | Even without concern for the whales themselves the Australian government should be taking action against any vessels fishing in their waters without consent.
On the side of anti-whaling; just because an animal (any animal) tastes good it does not mean that they should be hunted to extinction. It's typical of mankind to throw its weight and prove its arrogance time and time again. There's an ecological system on this planet and the loss of one animal has a chain reaction.
I'm a firm believer in evolution where only the fittest survive; so I don't openly approve of culling animals because I think it's mankind being arrogant and not allowing nature to take its course. But I understand people's reasoning behind saving species (which is why culling takes place). As a believer of evolution I naturally oppose the stupidity of mankind when they think its appropriate to fish, or hunt, to extinction ... the people who think it's okay to do that haven't evolved to the level of other human beings...and shouldn't be allowed to survive.
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03-25-2008, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by plan_D Even without concern for the whales themselves the Australian government should be taking action against any vessels fishing in their waters without consent. | I believe the Govt. is preparing evidance against the Japanese for a future hearing in the International courts. However it does amaze me that the Navy and Customs conducts full time partols to the North of Australia to arrest and seize fish caught illegally in Australian waters by Indonesian fishermen on an almost daily basis, yet the Japanese get away with it with impunity. Go figure?
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