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Politics Discuss Barack Obama speech in Germany? in the Current forums; Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Don't take me wrong, I think it has done me very well. I feel I ...


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Old 07-26-2008, 12:54 PM   #61
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Don't take me wrong, I think it has done me very well. I feel I have a better understanding of other cultures and that the American way of life is not the only way of life.

I love being American and am proud to death of being an American, but I find that a lot of Americans are clueless on what goes on outside of their borders. They get mad at people from other countries judging the United States, but Americans are just as guilty of it. You see it on this forum every day.

Just an example of what I read on this forum every day:

The average American has so much contempt that he throws "Western European Socialism" (and I am not for socialism) in the same cup as Communism. I read it every day here on this forum. I find it very disturbing and like to think they are just scared of what they don't know or understand.

In the end it does not give Americans a very good showing, considering Western Europe is so far removed from Communism...

But if you try and explain that it is different to an American, they get all bent out of shape. It is no different than what we see in the Bush Bashing threads here by people from other nations outside of the US.
A very good post Adler, obviously living in Germany has given you a good perspective.

I sure hope that the US & Europe are able to work together better during the next administration, as there are too many enemies for us to be squabbling among ourselves.
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Yet it is also interesting that the recent leadership changes in Europe and pronouncably more pro-US. Just look at the new leadership in Germany, France, Spain, Italy, etc. Quite a change from the prior leaders.
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Yet it is also interesting that the recent leadership changes in Europe and pronouncably more pro-US. Just look at the new leadership in Germany, France, Spain, Italy, etc. Quite a change from the prior leaders.
I don't even know that it is deliberatly "pro-US", but I think people have elected more sensible governments, they realize that if Germany & France want to get into a pi**ing match with the US, nobody wins. I think the problems of illegal immigration & Islamic Radicals have given a wake-up call to those 2 countries.
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...& Islamic Radicals have given a wake-up call to those 2 countries.
Just heard somewhere a good take on this. I would rather have Islamic radicals than mainstream Islamists. Muslims living in the US or UK, making a living, contributing to society and living peaceful are radical. The mainstream Islamics live on hatred, punish rape victims and on and on and on.
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I think they should stop allowing so many immigrants to come into the country and stop letting them freeload off of the tax payers money. Of course anytime a German says this, somebody from another nationality has to scream out that they are a Nazi.



Yeap the problem is that if the price was 10 Deutsch Mark it is is now 10 Euro which is 20 Deutsch Mark. But if you made 2000 Deutsch Mark before you now make 1000 to 1200 Euro now. which is about the same as what you made before.

Whenever you go shopping you think in DM. For instance this shirt is 20 Euro which is 40 DM. Damn that is expensive, I am not going to buy it because the shirt used to cost 20 DM...
It's the same here. Every time I have to multiply the prices by 2.2 to understand what it really costs in guilders
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Just heard somewhere a good take on this. I would rather have Islamic radicals than mainstream Islamists. Muslims living in the US or UK, making a living, contributing to society and living peaceful are radical. The mainstream Islamics live on hatred, punish rape victims and on and on and on.
We have a lot of those "radicals" here. Unfortunately, the few "mainstream" muslims here are quite annoying.
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A very good post Adler, obviously living in Germany has given you a good perspective.

I sure hope that the US & Europe are able to work together better during the next administration, as there are too many enemies for us to be squabbling among ourselves.
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yeas, its true dec. 41 and of course usa wasnt wrong, nobody can tell this

understand my point ?

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How come Obama's not come here? Hordes would come to see him, begging to suck his dick.
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Woah, using that kind of language might be a bit offensive to some around here. I know its a rough bunch, but being blatant might get ya kicked off.
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