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Old 01-31-2008, 02:45 PM   #1
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Inside Bay Area - Berkeley gives Marines the boot

City Council says recruiting station not welcome; military mum for now
By Doug Oakley, STAFF WRITER
Article Last Updated: 01/31/2008 12:37:23 PM PST

BERKELEY — Hey-hey, ho-ho, the Marines in Berkeley have got to go.
That's the message from the Berkeley City Council, which voted 8-1 to tell the U.S. Marines that its Shattuck Avenue recruiting station "is not welcome in the city, and if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders."

In addition, the council voted to explore enforcing its law prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation against the Marines because of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. And it officially encouraged the women's peace group Code Pink to impede the work of the Marines in the city by protesting in front of the station.

In a separate item, the council voted 8-1 to give Code Pink a designated parking space in front of the recruiting station once a week for six months and a free sound permit for protesting once a week from noon to 4 p.m.

Councilman Gordon Wozniak opposed both items.

The Marines have been in Berkeley for a little more than a year, having moved from Alameda in December 2006. For about the past four months, Code Pink has been protesting in front of the station.

"I believe in the Code Pink cause. The Marines don't belong here, they shouldn't have come here, and they should leave," Berkeley Mayor Tom Bates said after votes were cast.

A Marines representative did not respond to requests for comment.The resolution telling the Marines they are unwelcome and directing the city attorney

to explore issues of sexual orientation discrimination was brought to the council by the city's Peace and Justice commission.
The recommendation to give Code Pink a parking space for protesting and a free sound permit was brought by council members Linda Maio and Max Anderson.

Code Pink on Wednesday started circulating petitions to put a measure on the November ballot in Berkeley that would make it more difficult to open military recruiting offices near homes, parks, schools, churches libraries or health clinics. The group needs 5,000 signatures to make the ballot.

Even though the council items passed, not everyone is happy with the work of Code Pink. Some employees and owners of businesses near the Marines office have had enough of the group and its protests.

"My husband's business is right upstairs, and this (protesting) is bordering on harassment," Dori Schmidt told the council. "I hope this stops."

An employee of a nearby business who asked not to be identified said Wednesday the elderly Code Pink protesters are aggressive, take up parking spaces, block the sidewalk with their yoga moves, smoke in the doorways, and are noisy.

"Most of the people around here think they're a joke," the woman said.

Wozniak said he was opposed to giving Code Pink a parking space because it favors free speech rights of one group over another.

"There's a line between protesting and harassing, and that concerns me," Wozniak said. "It looks like we are showing favoritism. We have to respect the other side, and not abuse their rights. This is not good policy."

Fran Rachel, 90, a Code Pink protester who spoke at the council meeting, said the group's request for a parking space and noise permit was especially important because the Marines are recruiting soldiers who may die in an unjust war.

"This is very serious," Rachel said. "This isn't a game; it's mass murder. There's a sickness of silence of people not speaking out against the war. We have to do this."

Anderson, a former Marine who said he was "drummed out" of the corps when he took a stand against the Vietnam War, said he'd love to see the Marines high-tail it out of town.

"We are confronted with an organization that can spend billions of dollars on propaganda," Anderson said. "This is not Okinawa here; we're involved in a naked act of aggression. If we can provide a space for ordinary people to express themselves against this kind of barbarity, then we should be doing it."
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The Marines should leave and a nuclear diposal site shoud replace them.
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Old 01-31-2008, 03:07 PM   #3
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The Marines should park a M1 on their pink little cars. The feds should stop all federal spending for the city.

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Old 01-31-2008, 03:11 PM   #4
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Someone should just sink the whole city in the bay ,I wonder if the mayor ever thought about the people who gave him the right too pass that stupid law. All the dead vets thats who. you can be gay as hell in s.f. but not a marine . Shot the whole council , and make the code pinkers see code red !!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:42 PM   #5
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Berkeley Anti-American, anti-military, anti-decency

What a surprise

Berkeley is a garbage dump, and the people who live there are scum

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Old 01-31-2008, 08:11 PM   #6
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What a joke...
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Thats funny S.F. used to be a navy port FOR THE U.S. GOVERNMENT hmm wonder how many liberal fags forgot about that! The marines are (sorry guys,,,,were) an extension of the navy. now the fact that these peace loving fellows( cant include women then i'd be called racist) forgot how we happen to have sf oh by the way we didnt kick the french or spanish or mexicans out with flowers in the barrels of our guns, or talk them into peace so we can take their land IN MY OPINION THEY SHOULD ALL TAKE BOOT CAMP IN THE CUBAN ARMY..........OH SORRY THEY NEED THEIR YOGA CLASS FIRST....FU**IN SI**y'S I THINK I'M GOIN WITH PATTON....IF IT MOVES ...KILL IT
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I love san francisco for many reasons... but I hate it for refusing the USS IOWA a permanent, museum status berth...

they turned there back on a grand old lady.... among the last of the Battleships..

USS Iowa - Historic Ships Memorial at Pacific Square

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What a joke...
A joke indeed but a sad one...
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Wilbur , patton would burn that city too the ground. as it goes you can,nt serve in the marine corps in sf , but you can be a liberal pole smokeing fag. lets just nuke,em , FOX NEWS was the only cannel too run this story. Rest were busy doing britney watch and dem debateing
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Yes so true joy
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What the F is goin' on

I'm sick and tired of Berkeley, San Francisco, Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Newsom, et al. Every cent of Federal funding should be stopped immediately until the folks in CA come to their senses and throw these bums out of office.

What is wrong with the people in California?

And no offense is intended to the good folks from CA, on this forum or otherwise.

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IN some ways, I agree, TO. But I am a California resident and one of the minority conservatives. The pussies in Berkeley can shove their laws up their keester. I say, throw out the Marines, find somewhere else to get ALL of your federal funding. They have as much right to be there, no they have MORE right to be there because if it weren't for the Marines, those douchebags would probably be speaking Japanese.

I wouldn't be unhappy if that whole town burned to the ground, and all those code pink faggots with it.
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Heard the Marines are going to ignore them. Pretty much like the rest of the country. Who really cares what happens in Berkley? Code Pink protesting in front of your shop should be something of a badge of honor. It shows whatever those knuckleheads stand for (and beyond wanting all of us to be gay, I'm not sure what else but I probably won't like it), you are on the right side of it.
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The marines are (sorry guys,,,,were) an extension of the navy.
The USMC falls under the Deptartment of the Navy, not the US Navy.

That aside, let the federal government assert its supremacy.
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