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07-11-2006, 07:58 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Bush or Cheney?
Which one would be a better president? You decide. 
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07-11-2006, 07:59 PM
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Country:  | Well Cheney pretty much is the president through Bush, so I dunno
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07-11-2006, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars Well Cheney pretty much is the president through Bush, so I dunno | How so? Sure if Bush dies Cheneys Pres. not for very long though, hell would spit him back out. 
__________________ "I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made."
- Franklin D. Roosevelt
"Courage is a quality God has seen fit to dispense with utmost care. The men of Bataan were His chosen favorites."
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Commanding General, Luzon Forces, 1942
"No Mother, no Father, no Uncle Sam."
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07-11-2006, 08:06 PM
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Country: | No im Cheney has his hand up Bush's *ss, thats what im saying.
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And my misfits way of life.
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Most valued possession.
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07-11-2006, 08:11 PM
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Country: | Oh yeah. Blah my brains crappin out.
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- Franklin D. Roosevelt
"Courage is a quality God has seen fit to dispense with utmost care. The men of Bataan were His chosen favorites."
- Major General Edward P. King, Jr., USA
Commanding General, Luzon Forces, 1942
"No Mother, no Father, no Uncle Sam."
- Cabantuan P.O.W.'s flag motto.
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07-11-2006, 09:50 PM
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Country:  | Both suck, I hope you guys in the US get a better President in the future who does not cause the oil prise. Please cant the oil prize fall.
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07-11-2006, 10:10 PM
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#7 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by Henk Both suck, I hope you guys in the US get a better President in the future who does not cause the oil prise. Please cant the oil prize fall. | Oil? All the rumblings in Iraq has nothing to do with oil, Adler could attest to that as we only import about 10% of our oil from Iraq. The current gouge in oil was started years ago when OPEC was self-destructing, here read this article and look at the date... OPEC faces oil glut dilemma, though production cuts not seen likely
Believe it or not gas (at least in the US) is about where it should be, maybe 30 or 40 cents over priced right now based on inflation... Inflation adjusted Gasoline Price Chart
compare this to a cost of living calculator and compare the peak years, it's not far off... Cost-of-Living Calculator - AIER
US oil companies are making billions because they are selling oil it takes them $35 a barrel to produce for twice the amount it's that simple...
Plus we import 60% of our oil!!!
It's easy to blame Bush and Cheney - two rich white guys with big business ties, the types people love to hate...
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07-11-2006, 10:23 PM
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Country: | Good point Flyboy. Its not Bush or Cheney's fault at all. Oil is a nonrenewable resource. Compared to other things, there's very little of it. Would you blame God for this? Would you accuse him of oil prices?
Hey, I may take flak from what I stated but its the truth. Oil is just that bubbling oil in the ground that we discovered. Its no ones fault for the oil. No one.
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07-11-2006, 10:39 PM
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Country: | Well we pay now almost 7 Rand a LITER where you guys in the US pay for gallons we pay per litter.
The whole tension between the US and Iran has also to do with the oil prize rising. I hope that oil will dry up soon and we will get something like air for cars to run on and not fuel. That is what I wish for.
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07-11-2006, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Oil? All the rumblings in Iraq has nothing to do with oil, Adler could attest to that as we only import about 10% of our oil from Iraq. The current gouge in oil was started years ago when OPEC was self-destructing, here read this article and look at the date...
... | You are certainly correct in most perceptions about controling oil etc. We did not got to war because of the control of oil. On the other hand, do you really believe that the world or U.S. would care what goes on in Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, et. al., if there was no oil under the miserable sand? Just look at Somalia and other African nations that have witnessed genocide.
People who think Bush is responsible for the oil prices are uniformed or uneducated, or, believe their news babble! | |
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07-12-2006, 02:13 AM
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#11 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Henk Well we pay now almost 7 Rand a LITER where you guys in the US pay for gallons we pay per litter.
The whole tension between the US and Iran has also to do with the oil prize rising. I hope that oil will dry up soon and we will get something like air for cars to run on and not fuel. That is what I wish for. | And that has nothing to do with the US. Your goverment sets the oil prices. Sets the taxes that the companies must pay for the oil. Your high oil prices are set by your government not by the US government. If you government wanted you to pay the same price as teh US then it would set the price about the same.
Bush did not go to war because of Oil and I certainly did not fight there for a year because of oil. Henk dont blame the US for your own countries problems....
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07-12-2006, 02:37 AM
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Country: | Heres my question maybe somebody can answer to me, Canada is not OPEC, yet we charge OPEC prices, I live in Alberta where most of canadas oil is drilled yet Im paying 1.15 a litre when in some places of Ontario they havnt broken 85 cents, its horsesh*t is what it is.
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07-12-2006, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars Heres my question maybe somebody can answer to me, Canada is not OPEC, yet we charge OPEC prices, I live in Alberta where most of canadas oil is drilled yet Im paying 1.15 a litre when in some places of Ontario they havnt broken 85 cents, its horsesh*t is what it is. | Like in Canada, oil producers in the US will charge OPEC prices - that's how they are making their money. Also consider distribution from the refinery and supply and demand, that effects the price as well.
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07-12-2006, 10:40 AM
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Over here on the military bases we get our gas from AAFEES. They actually had to report to Congress why they had record profits on gas when the price of gas was actually falling at the time.
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07-12-2006, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Like in Canada, oil producers in the US will charge OPEC prices - that's how they are making their money. Also consider distribution from the refinery and supply and demand, that effects the price as well. |
Well I do know that alot of Alberta's oil is Shale and Tarsand, so refining it is expensive, but when the Oil is coming out of my province I think that me and other albertans should be spending less, the GST (Goods and Services Tax) has gone down since July but price of Oil stays the same which is BS, with all due respect Canada doesnt consume as much gasoline as the states, and alot of our our pump sites are relatively new areas which hold enough to supply canada and the U.s for 100 years.
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