CNN Brings Comfort and Aid to the Enemy

evangilder · 10-27-2006, 07:34 AM

That is a great pic. That was taken last year at Edwards by a friend of mine who is part of the aviation photography group I belong to. They always do some cool stuff at Edwards.

timshatz · 10-27-2006, 09:48 AM

The CNN thing does bring up an interesting point. I think they crossed a line by showing the troop getting sniped. Not appreciated by the American public but that is not where the line was crossed.

If they got the pic from some terrorist over there, I question if they paid anything for it. Probably not, not this time. But in the general ratings war that news has, it brought attention to CNN that it was lacking. That translates into viewing power which translates into advertising money which translates into profits. This we all know. But my point is, what is the difference between getting film of one of our guys getting shot and paying for one of our guys getting shot.

Further that, if they are willing to pay to see one of our guys getting shot, would they ("they" being the news people) pay more to see a reporter get shot. That is my point about the slippery slope. Once you start showing it, then you start paying for it. When you start paying for it, the better the shot (in terms of marketability) the more you pay.

Just a thought I had about the whole thing. I abhore CNN showing the film but think this is one that could someday backfire on them.

It may sound crazy, but 20 years ago, nobody thought people would sue the Catholic Church.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 10-27-2006, 11:14 AM

I want them to show some video of a reporter getting sniped. I dont think they would do it out of moral reasons and that is why I think they ****ed up. They are nothing but a bunch of **** bags, every last one that works for CNN.

Matt308 · 10-27-2006, 12:38 PM

Adler. Saw the German SNAFU with the skull in the paper today. What a bunch of excitement about nothing. An now I read that they are interviewing the soldiers to determine if desecration of the dead can be levied against them with standard sentence of 7 years!!! I don't recall the name, but the political head of the armed forces all but said they will do jail time. Lord help us all.

timshatz · 10-27-2006, 01:44 PM

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Adler. Saw the German SNAFU with the skull in the paper today. What a bunch of excitement about nothing. An now I read that they are interviewing the soldiers to determine if desecration of the dead can be levied against them with standard sentence of 7 years!!! I don't recall the name, but the political head of the armed forces all but said they will do jail time. Lord help us all.

Guess that puts an end to anybody doing Hamlet in Germany,

"Poor Yorick, I knew him well..." OFF TO THE POKEY WITH YOU PAL!

102first_hussars · 10-27-2006, 02:23 PM

Well the CNN is meant for the Liberal minded people, and Fox is for the Conscervative minded people, its a Marketing path, CNN is being sold to the Liberals and Fox to the Conscervative, its not that there necessarily biased which they are but not the point, its that they are cut and carved to tell the liberal minded people what they want to hear, now if you ask me Fox News is in no way better than CNN, but i rarely watch the News, i read the Newspaper.

And as for the thread topic? thats horrible, gooling from the Cameramen, which is exactly why with us the media does what we say when we say, they go where we allow them to go, and the CRTC will never air a Canadian Soldier whos been hit by a sniper, its degrating to him and its not something the Canadian people have the heart to see, but im not saying things should be hidden from Canadians or Americans, one thing that Canadian Soldiers couldnt stand was that they were fighting there asses off,dying,suffering and bleeding in Ortona, Italy, but all the media attention was going to the Allies in France. So the media shouldnt be jackals but they shold tell every story

Matt308 · 10-27-2006, 03:16 PM

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Guess that puts an end to anybody doing Hamlet in Germany,

"Poor Yorick, I knew him well..." OFF TO THE POKEY WITH YOU PAL!

ndicki · 10-27-2006, 03:17 PM

This might amuse you - here in France (pause for boos, whistles, etc) CNN is considered as an extremist pro-Bush (the penultimate sin in French eyes) warmongering TV station which hates the French (the ultimate sin in French eyes).

Pity that's not true!

Matt308 · 10-27-2006, 03:23 PM

With respect to France's interpretation...

ndicki · 10-27-2006, 04:04 PM

Just think, if you dislike them so much from that sort of distance, what fun it is living here... I get in trouble regularly for being nasty to them!

Matt308 · 10-27-2006, 04:13 PM

Do they really hate Americans that much? I work with the French often and I find them to be like most everyone else. They tend to get in your space when they talk with you, but I blew that off as a cultural thing. Now French politics is a different story.

ndicki · 10-27-2006, 04:29 PM

The French are funny people - they want to be American, and worship the 1950s American way of life, but they hate the fact that the Americans have more clout than they do, be it economically, industrially or - this is the clincher - culturally. So while an individual American will be accepted readily, a group will be despised with the degree of disdain that can spring only from a huge inferiority complex.

They like us even less.

And they are not very good with toothbrushes, either.

Matt308 · 10-27-2006, 05:21 PM

They hate the British too eh. Is there someone they do like? They sure are buddying up to the Russians.

MacArther · 10-27-2006, 07:17 PM

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They sure are buddying up to the Russians.

Maybe the Russians can teach them how to brush their teeth properly!

Kiwikid · 10-27-2006, 07:37 PM

I didn't see the report so I don't know how CNN portrayed it... Whether with disdain, as illustrative of some other point they were trying to make or what ?

I think it was unethical to play the tape. If the news story however was to illustrate the fact that insurgents were filming their own actions and distributing video clips on islamic websites to incite militant activity amongst other muslims on their websites then surely it's purpose was to inform us in the west and make us feel offended.

Are we sure we're not shooting the messenger here ?

If insurgents are taping their own violence and webcasting it to incite muslims globally, then I want to know that and possibly have the issue debated.

Possibly it's a good thing to have CNN tell us what is happening so we can have a debate about the freedom of islamic militants to be able to webcast beheadings, car bombings or shootings ?

Tha camera man was not a CNN journalist. The only question is about the ethics, or justification for playing the tape and without knowing the context in which it is shown, we are only being guided by Harvard's outrage when he first posted.

Under some circumstances it might be justified and excusable. It wouldn't be excusable if it was published immediately after the shooting.

That arabic TV station is in my view inciting violence by shooting virtually streaming video as soon as the footage is taken. The real question is if it is okay for Yahoo to restrict freedom of the internet in China shouldn't there be some restriction of the internet showing islamic violence in the middle east ?