Global Warming: The New Religion

pbfoot · 06-01-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by renrich

I think one of the significant things about this story is that nowhere could I find the story on AOL or MSN. If Griffin had said that the sky is falling and GW is serious and it is man's fault, do you think it would have been on the afore mentioned. Trust me, it would. When I talk about common sense I am referring to the remark he made about who gets to choose which climate model we have. I would not trust Gore with any decision.

I went to google news searched nasa climate change and found that and other articles like this NASA - Research Finds That Earth's Climate is Approaching 'Dangerous' Point
do you think NASA has an agenda ?

FLYBOYJ · 06-01-2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pbfoot

do you think NASA has an agenda ?

YEP! The have to fight continually for funding. "No bucks, No Buck Rogers."

pbfoot · 06-01-2007, 07:50 PM

renrich · 06-02-2007, 11:22 AM

Yes, NASA is responsible for collecting and monitoring climate data and as Flyboy says they are continually fighting for government funding. Also I don't know if you are familiar with academic types that rely on government grants for research projects and such, but I majored in geology in college and am familiar with a lot of those types and almost invariably they are lefties. It is interesting when you compare the political attitudes of scientific types. Those that go into the real world and work in industry are usually conservatives. Those that stay in academia, do research funded by government or take jobs in government agencies are usually lefties. I wonder why? Could it have something to do with competition? Since most academic and government jobs are secure unless one really screws up and most private industry jobs are only secure if you produce it may have an impact on one's political leanings. Once again, I am talking mainly about scientific types. Career military people seem to be in the main conservative, but they don't have much of a career unless they compete.

Njaco · 06-02-2007, 12:13 PM

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...this story is that nowhere could I find the story on AOL or MSN....

But it was plastered all over NPR.

Harvard · 06-04-2007, 12:03 AM

Hi Renrich:

I've got an answer for you; compare the extremes.

Left extreme: Post office, what kind of people work there?

Rt example: Microsoft, what kind of people work there?

So we could say that those seeking a job where they can't get fired typically and where they can hide within the system are lefties.

Those seeking a job which relies on their competence and talent, and desire to grow are on the rt.

Cyrano · 06-04-2007, 07:25 AM

Telegraph - Climate chaos? Don't believe it

Njaco · 06-04-2007, 02:38 PM

Sorry Harvard but I might throw that opinion out the window. I work for the Gubberment and.......

Tadaaa!!!

I'm a shop steward in the biggest union of government workers in the state!

renrich · 06-04-2007, 06:05 PM

Well I don't do any blanket indictment of government workers. I have worked with some Corps of Engineers guys hear in CO who are good. Ever since the Clean Water Act of 1983? was passed and the enviros popped up they have to have a daily ration of crap thrown at them and they soldier on.

Njaco · 06-04-2007, 07:27 PM

Ahh, I'm just doin a jab. I agree with Harvard on the most part. I see it first hand. I was on the Political Action Commitee and boy, did I get slammed at times!

Maestro · 06-04-2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Harvard

Hi Renrich:

I've got an answer for you; compare the extremes.

Left extreme: Post office, what kind of people work there?

Rt example: Microsoft, what kind of people work there?

So we could say that those seeking a job where they can't get fired typically and where they can hide within the system are lefties.

Those seeking a job which relies on their competence and talent, and desire to grow are on the rt.

Bullllllllll-shiiiiiiiiiiiit !

Seeking a job there is for peoples who wants a bigger sallary than what they would get in small businesses.

Example : my current sallary is $12.85 CND an hour... in a standard security company after three years of service. For the same job, but in a paper or electricity company, I would get a sallary of $25.00 CND an hour the day I step in.

Harvard · 06-04-2007, 08:38 PM

Sorry Guys:

That was a blanket generalized statement I made, but in some cases it's true.

Chris

pbfoot · 06-04-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Harvard

Hi Renrich:

I've got an answer for you; compare the extremes.

Left extreme: Post office, what kind of people work there?

Rt example: Microsoft, what kind of people work there?

So we could say that those seeking a job where they can't get fired typically and where they can hide within the system are lefties.

Those seeking a job which relies on their competence and talent, and desire to grow are on the rt.

I'm sorry Im not employed in Gov't nor a large business but to pigeon hole a person because of where he is employed or his vocation is ignorance never knock a man till you've walked a mile in his shoes.

Njaco · 06-05-2007, 07:08 AM

I have met some Dems one on one and most times you can have a good debate but when enmassed, watch out! I'm only one example of how you can't always sterotype but on the whole Harvard is correct. In NJ most jobs are unionized and the Unions push the liberal agenda, therefore you have a large democratic base in NJ. I choose to act with my head, though it gets me in trouble sometime!

And to get back on thread, thats part of reason why I think GW is just an agenda and not what they keep spouting. If you create a disaster and shout you have the answer, some will follow you. And who better to bash than your so-called enemy, which for liberals would be conservatives.

I'm sure you've heard the saying (and I'm sure I'll mangle it!) but it was said that if you're 20 and not a democrat, you don't have a heart and if you're 40 and not a republican you haven't got a head!

renrich · 06-05-2007, 08:33 AM

Njaco, I think your perspective is right on. I lean in the same direction as Harvard but believe your observations make sense and are accurate. Much of this GW issue is political posturing by the left and now Bush is doing his political posturing by way of G8 and at least temporarily is usurping the enviro issue. However, I don't believe for a minute that Bush's position on GW is as extreme as the left's. In fact, I doubt he believes that humans have any impact on GW either way.