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Old 06-05-2007, 08:38 AM   #316
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Naw, he's just caving in alittle from the pressure and giving out a white elephant.

hate to say it but its another little embarassment from him that makes me cringe. Dubai ports, Immigration amnesty and now this. God, I hope who ever takes the helm will have a little backbone.
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:18 AM   #317
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and this may say it best.....
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Very good about daylight savings time. Please don't misunderestimate sic what I said about Bush and G8. I believe it is a calculated move by the president and his GOP advisors to steal the thunder from the left on the environment and GW. I do not think that Bush will allow his administration to cave in and back any measures which will substantially harm our country, it's economy or our way of life. What it is is politics.
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:17 PM   #319
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it doesn't matter the Republicans will be gone in ayear and a half unless they wake up
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:37 PM   #320
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Wake up and do what?
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:44 PM   #321
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couldn't have said it better
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:18 PM   #322
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I think that letter shows the extremes from both sides. And I don't agree with either. I don't know if its a matter of waking up and standing up to all the BS and set a course. If the dems present something that is BS and you know its BS then don't make concessions.

But for now, this late in the game, they will be out of DC. It started last Nov.
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:42 PM   #323
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Did you hear that Gore kept cancelling several Global Warming presentations, because it snowed to near record levels in late April where he was doing his speach?

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Old 06-16-2007, 01:13 AM   #325
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from globeandmail.com: Global warming good for Canada, Yale study shows

Global warming good for Canada, Yale study showsMICHAEL HILL

Associated Press

June 14, 2007 at 5:25 PM EDT

GHENT, N.Y. — It's not in Al Gore's PowerPoint presentation, but there are some upsides to global warming.

Northern homes could save on heating fuel. Cities might stop losing snowbirds to the South. Canadian farmers could harvest bumper crops. Greenland may become awash in cod and oil riches. Shippers could count on an Arctic shortcut between the Atlantic and Pacific. Forests may expand. Mongolia could see a go-go economy.

This is all speculative, even a little facetious, and any gains are not likely to make up for predicted frightening upheavals elsewhere. But still ... might there be a silver lining for the frigid regions of Canada and Russia?

“It's not that there won't be bad things happening in those countries. There will be — things like you'll lose polar bears,” said economic professor Robert Mendelsohn of the Yale School of Forestry & Environmental Studies. “But the idea is that they will get such large gains, especially in agriculture, that they will be bigger than the losses.”

Dr. Mendelsohn looked at how gross domestic product around the world would be affected under different warming scenarios though 2100. Canada and Russia tend to come out as gainers, as does much of northern Europe and Mongolia.

This is largely because of projected gains in agricultural production in those areas. Many researchers believe that if the world warms up, the sweet spots for growing crops will migrate toward the poles.

The future may have arrived already in icy Greenland, where fishermen are thrilled by the return of cod and farmers are reporting higher yields.

“Maybe the turnips get a little bit bigger, and the potatoes get a little bit bigger, but that's important,” said Kenneth Hoegh, a government agricultural adviser. “We are right on the edge here for agriculture.”

Jesper Madsen, who directs Arctic research at the National Environmental Research Institute in Denmark, said Greenland's agricultural gains would seem like small potatoes economically if the retreating ice there clears the way for more oil drilling.

Still, people shouldn't book a beach vacation in Iceland just yet. A likely warm-up would be gradual and might even be mitigated if the world cuts greenhouse gas emissions.

Currently, the “optimal holiday destination” has an annual average temperature of about 61 degrees (think Atlanta, or Barcelona), according to a group of European researchers. A worldwide warming will essentially drive tourists away from equatorial regions toward the poles and up the mountains, said one of those researchers, economist Richard Tol of the Economic and Social Research Institute in Ireland.

While oceanfront cities might have to build seawalls to hold back the ocean in a warming world, some researchers believe the freshwater Great Lakes will evaporate a bit. But a projected 11-degree boost at the turn of the next century could be a boon for chillier cities even knocking them into the “optimal” holiday range.

Looking around the world, a list provided by Tol said the biggest winner in a warmed-up world would be — no surprise — Canada. It would see a 220 per cent increase in international tourist arrivals by the end of the century, followed by Russia with a 174 per cent jump, and Mongolia, up 122 per cent.

Of course, the caveats are significant when trying to make any long-term global forecast. There are so many variables.

A longer growing season does a farmer no good if resulting rain patterns bring a drought. Dr. Mendelsohn said northern residents saving on winter heating fuel will end up spending more than that to keep cool in the summer. Great Lakes cities might enjoy balmier weather, but could suffer if lower lake levels cut off shipping lanes. And global warming could present deadly new opportunities for parasites and disease.
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:56 AM   #326
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Back in 1990 the big fear was ozone depletion.now it is global warming....if the co2 count contributes to global warming why didt the earth really heat up in 1965?It supposedly takes 20 to 25 years to get high enough in the atmosphere to trap in heat.If that was the case,20 to 25 years after ww2 there should have been a big spike in the temperature.literally millions of vehicles were rumbling on the ground,flying in the air or steaming in the ocean.I would imagine the amount of vehicles were probably the same amount in the 70s.what do you guys think?
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|Don't forget acid rain....wasn't that supposed to be destroying our cities and forests? Strangely, this didn't happen and the government doesn't mention it anymore. Not to mention it used to be global warming, but now as we sit through one of the wettest summers on record, it is pretty obvious it isn't really getting any warmer. So now it is 'climate change' which is a nice byword to cover all eventualites.

As for cars, don't even get me started. First we all had to fit a catalytic converter, then engines had to meet Euro 3 emissions, then Euro 4, then Euro 5. This makes repair and maintenance even more costly due to the electronics needed. Then due to safety legislation, cars get even bigger and heaver, so less fuel efficiant. First we get a report saying we should use cars less and air travel is the most environmentally friendly way. Its author? An ex air industry CO. Then we get an EU report complaining cars are too heavy and should be limited to 100mph. Not to mention the entire tax system is based on CO2, with no mention made of any other gases. The tax rate for the highest CO2 emmitters is being raised to something like £400 a year. This won't result in a drop in vehicle sales, just their owners paying more. Can someone explain how this has nothing to do with making money?
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Old 07-13-2007, 07:25 PM   #328
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I live in a province that has 1000000 yes 1 million lakes Acid rain was killing them thanks to reduction sulphur dioxide and nitrogen oxides things are getting better but are far from cured .The US did an admirable job and have already reached the quota reductions promised by the yr 2010 I don't believe canada will achieve its objective but could be wrong . In Canada we have about 20% of the worlds fresh water and acid rain would affect us far more then it would Europe so maybe its old news there but it is still a concern here.
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Old 07-15-2007, 12:39 PM   #329
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On the west coast we really do not talk about acid rain.It's not on the news anyways.
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Well gentlemen I will still go with the opinion that Global Warming is the farce of the Century. I watched part of the concert last week for Earth care or what ever they call the damn thing. To say the least I wasn't impressed and still not impressed with the top head line acts moralizing to us about our CO2 impact and imprint on todays world, I can barely tolerate the moralizing but I can't tolerate double standards and then try and tie it up in a pretty bow and present it to us as a type of moral and political crusade to save the planet. Never been one to take from any one an attitude as DO AS I SAY. NOT DO AS I DO etc. I watched Hannity and Colms on Fox News and Hannity had some very interesting remarks about some of the preformers from the concert. I am not saying I follow Hannity entirely but he did raise some interesting comments which no one was abled to answer all that precisely and just smeared it with the typical non answer that Hannity was a Neo Con etc. I am not sure I follow some one like Al Gore or Kennedy turning up at a meeting in a bloody Lear Jet or some one like Madonna having stocks and shares in petro Oil companies and then informing us to lessen our CO2 imprint. Maybe its just me but I never have taken to HYPOCRACY to well.

By the way Australia is experiencing one of its coldest winters in 10 years. In the Southern Alpine Regions in Australia we are having record snow falls. Though we are still experiencing drought conditions in S.E. Queensland where I live. We have had significant rainfalls in Victoria and New South Wales. The Gippsland region in Victoria has had floods so did the Hunter region in New South Wales but this did come about from unusual weather patterning through June. But no one can predict the weather and I am not going to do so. If this is Global Warming then why am I freezing my balls of in a coldest Queensland Winter in 10 years

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