 | Hillary and the military| Politics Discuss Hillary and the military in the Current forums; I elect LES for Pres !!!! at least I won't feel like I have TT syndrome
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08-16-2007, 01:53 PM
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#16 | | the old Sage
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Becca tell your honie he's been promoted or maybe demoted
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08-16-2007, 02:37 PM
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Country: | There's an old saying that you get the nomination for your party on the extremes and you run for the general election in the center. That being the case, it will probably be Hillary and Romney.
Hillary has almost equal like/dislike numbers (somewhere in the high 40s). She is a love/hate candidate. That is not a good thing for her. Romney is just the Republican with the least against him. Guliani is not the guy, too much baggage. No other Republican has the face time (as of yet). Thompson may've waited too long.
Then again, Bush came out of nowhere in 00 so there could be a dark horse on both sides that could sneak in and capture the nomination. For now, I think it will be Hillary and Romney. | |
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08-16-2007, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by timshatz  There's an old saying that you get the nomination for your party on the extremes and you run for the general election in the center. That being the case, it will probably be Hillary and Romney.
Hillary has almost equal like/dislike numbers (somewhere in the high 40s). She is a love/hate candidate. That is not a good thing for her. Romney is just the Republican with the least against him. Guliani is not the guy, too much baggage. No other Republican has the face time (as of yet). Thompson may've waited too long.
Then again, Bush came out of nowhere in 00 so there could be a dark horse on both sides that could sneak in and capture the nomination. For now, I think it will be Hillary and Romney. | Both Carter and Clinton both came out of nowhere in 1976 and 1992
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08-16-2007, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by timshatz For now, I think it will be Hillary and Romney. | I think you're probably right Tim.
And the "Arkansas She-Devil"  is definitely a love/hate candidate. I wonder how many women will vote for her only because she is a woman?
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08-16-2007, 02:49 PM
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#20 | | Der Crewchief
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08-16-2007, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Erich Charles I would love to agree with your principle and I would of if this had been the early 80's but we have advanced or should I say digressed. this country has fallen way short of what it could be. the govt thanks to many officials has made itself into a god and elected officials in not just one capacity are given carte blanche and if anyone screws with them there will be hell to pay. had we stayed as a ruling military body then we as patriots could of easily eliminated the riff raff from the higher levels ages ago, but that has been taken away from us too. there has been talk and you probably have heard this some years ago of vigilanties or even worse an internal civil war could erupt to bring the changes needed................yeah it's sounds absurd but still not unrealistic, and with those wise words ( Ha !) I am running to the toilet |
here, here...Erich, well all expect the toilet part. We have unfortunately, as a people lost a great deal of the initial concept that all the greatness that this country was founded upon. The idea that 'ignorance is bliss' was embraced by some and fed to others SO we would stay out of the equation. Its quite sad.
AND yes, Charles..that IS what I am saying. JUST to have a "woman" in office to what, appease us?? NOT Hillary. I can't even give her the vote in the 'lesser of the evils' catagory. Then again, I liked Wesley Clark. lol.
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08-16-2007, 03:32 PM
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Country: | I am only ONE woman T.O. but, I won't condemn my country JUST to say.."oooh..looky! WE have a woman in office!!" and run off and go shop  . NOW, I am definitely with Charles on the Thatcher thing! THATS a great woman, there..HUGE balls! (can I say that here?? sorry.) Definitely more like it!
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08-16-2007, 03:52 PM
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#23 | | Older Than Dirt
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AND yes, Charles..that IS what I am saying. JUST to have a "woman" in office to what, appease us?? NOT Hillary. I can't even give her the vote in the 'lesser of the evils' catagory. Then again, I liked Wesley Clark. lol.
| What group does this guy "Clark" sing with ?
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08-16-2007, 04:03 PM
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Wesley Clark rose to the level of Supreme Allied Commander for NATO before retiring from the military in 2000. Born in Chicago, he grew up in Arkansas where he currently lives. He is a former Rhodes Scholar and graduated first in his class at West Point in 1966.
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08-16-2007, 04:06 PM
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#25 | | Older Than Dirt
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08-16-2007, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Les'Bride I am only ONE woman T.O. but, I won't condemn my country JUST to say.."oooh..looky! WE have a woman in office!!" and run off and go shop . NOW, I am definitely with Charles on the Thatcher thing! THATS a great woman, there..HUGE balls! (can I say that here?? sorry.) Definitely more like it! | I would take Margaret Thatcher or Golda Meir over any candidate currently running for president.
Wesley Clark??????????????????? 
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08-23-2007, 06:35 PM
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Country: | Tim I think has nailed it with Hillary as the dem candidate hands down and probably Romney or Guiliani as the Republican and the general election will be close. | |
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08-23-2007, 06:44 PM
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08-24-2007, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot From an outsiders point of view I like Joe Biden | Got busted back in the 90s for plagerizing other people's speaches. Doubtless if he got anywhere near being nominated, that would come up. Nice enough guy, too much the political wheeler dealer. Been in Congress too long. After a while, that just weights a nominee down. Don't think there's been a President who was in the Senate since Johnson. Well, one that was elected to the office anyway. | |
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08-24-2007, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by timshatz Got busted back in the 90s for plagerizing other people's speaches. Doubtless if he got anywhere near being nominated, that would come up. Nice enough guy, too much the political wheeler dealer. Been in Congress too long. After a while, that just weights a nominee down. Don't think there's been a President who was in the Senate since Johnson. Well, one that was elected to the office anyway. | Last man to go directly to the presidency from the Senate was JFK.
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