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Rudy Giuliani, Republican
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Mike Huckabee, Republican
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Duncan Hunter, Republican
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Dr. Alan Keyes, Republican
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John McCain, Republican
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Ron Paul, Republican
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Mitt Romney, Republican
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Tom Tancredo, Republican
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Fred Thompson, Republican
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Joe Biden, Democrat
| | 1 | 3.70% | |
Hillary Clinton, Democrat
| | 1 | 3.70% | |
Christopher Dodd, Democrat
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John Edwards, Democrat
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Mike Gravel, Democrat
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Dennis Kucinich, Democrat
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Barack Obama, Democrat
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Bill Richardson, Democrat
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Don J. Grundmann, Constitution Party
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Diane Beall Templin, Constitution Party
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Elaine Brown, Green Party
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Kent Mesplay, Green Party
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Kat Swift, Green Party
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Daniel Imperato, Libertarian Party
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Steve Kubby, Libertarian Party
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George Phillies, Libertarian Party
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Wayne Allyn Root, Liberatrian Party
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Announced Candidates, Prohibition Party
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Earl Dodge, Prohibition Party
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Eric Chester, Socialist Party USA
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Blake Ashby, Independent
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Frank Moore, The Just Makes Sense Party
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Joe Schriner, Independent
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Jonathon Sharkey, The Vampires, Witches, and Pagans Party
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Stephen Tiberius Colbert, Independent
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10-19-2007, 08:30 PM
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#1 | | Der Crewchief
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I thought this might be kind of interesting and over time we can see how everyones thoughts and ideas change or dont change over the course of the next year.
If the Presidential Elections were today who would you vote for?
The Candidates are (campain sites are under the name): Republican Rudy Giuliani, former mayor of New York City JoinRudy2008 :: Rudy Giuliani for President Mike Huckabee, former Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee for President Duncan Hunter, Representative from California The Official Site of Duncan Hunter for US President in 2008 Dr. Alan Keyes Alan Keyes for President - America's Revival John McCain, Senator from Arizona John McCain 2008 - John McCain for President Ron Paul, Representative from Texas Ron Paul 2008 — Hope for America Mitt Romney, former Governor of Massachusetts Mitt Romney for President 2008 Tom Tancredo, Representative from Colorado Tancredo for President - Official Campaign Site Fred Thompson, former Senator of Tennessee Fred '08 - Friends of Fred Thompson Democrats Joe Biden, Senator from Delaware http://www.joebiden.com/ Hillary Clinton, Senator from New York HillaryClinton.com - Welcome Christopher Dodd Chris Dodd | Democrat for President 2008 John Edwards, former Senator from North Carolina John Edwards for President Mike Gravel, former Senator from Alaska Mike Gravel for President 2008 - Official Web Site Dennis Kucinich, Representative from Ohio Dennis Kucinich for President 2008 - Strength through Peace Barack Obama, Senator from Illinois Welcome to Obama for America Bill Richardson, Governor of New Mexico Richardson for President Constitution Party Don J. Grundmann, Chiropractor, anti-tax activist. GRUNDMANN FOR PRESIDENT - Take the Red Pill: TruthUSA.org Diane Beall Templin, Attorney Green Party Elaine Brown, Former Black Panther Party leader, noted author, community and prison justice activist from Georgia. Elaine Brown Online Kent Mesplay, Biomedical engineer Mesplay.Org - HOME Kat Swift, State Party Co-Chair, progressive activist and newspaper credit manager from Texas. kat swift for san antonio city council district one Libertarian Party Daniel Imperato, Businessman from Florida. Imperato for President 2008 Steve Kubby, Businessman, marijuana legalization activist. Kubby for President | Let Freedom Grow! George Phillies, College professor. George Phillies for President | George Phillies Wayne Allyn Root, Sports handicapper, author, and TV show host from Nevada. Wayne Allyn Root's Root for America web site Prohibition Party Gene Amondson, Temperance lecturer, minister, artist. Gene Amondson- Alaskan Artist, Pie Book, Prohibition, Radio Earl Dodge, Businessman. Socialist Party USA Eric Chester, Author and former economics professor. [edit] Independents Blake Ashby, Entrepreneur and independent businessman. Ashby 2008 Frank Moore, Performance artist, writer, painter and musician. Frank Moore For President 2008 Joe Schriner. Substance abuse counselor, and freelance journalist. Average joe tour usa map Jonathon Sharkey. Profressional boxer and wrestler. Perennial presidential candidate. Self-proclaimed satanist, "sanguinary vampyre", Hecate Witch. http://www.theimpalerforpresident200...aign_Page.html Stephen Tiberius Colbert. Television host. Plans to run in the South Carolina primary.
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Country:  | Great thread! Just heard some stuff from Ron Paul and I like what I hear. See how it plays out.
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Country: | I thought S. Colbert backed out after being denied a spot on the ballot? I would've voted for Colbert, since all the other candidates are just too hilarious for me to vote for.
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12-06-2007, 06:56 AM
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Country: | I think right now I would go with Ron Paul. I just seem to like what he says so far. Things can change however.
No votes for any Dems yet. Gee I wonder why???? 
I actually figured some our liberal friends in this forum would get some interesting discussions started.
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12-06-2007, 07:26 AM
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Country: | Adler, I'm starting to go that way too. Seen him speak a few times on cut-bit news and read a few things on his website. Seems to say the things I agree with. Gonna dig further on him before I make my mind up.
of course ther are always these guys...respect for the flag!
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Looks like Ron Paul and Stephen Colbert will have to flip a coin to see who will take the second seat....
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12-08-2007, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet  I think right now I would go with Ron Paul. I just seem to like what he says so far. Things can change however.
No votes for any Dems yet. Gee I wonder why????
I actually figured some our liberal friends in this forum would get some interesting discussions started. | Well I'll take a bite on that Chris! LOL! I voted for Biden because I think his plan for Iraq makes the most sense.
I wouldn't call myself a liberal though, more like a libertarian! (like your man Ron Paul!)  What does R. Paul plan to do with Iraq anyways?
I won't vote for any other Dem though, nor would I vote for Guliani.
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Country: | He is kind of a noninterventionalist. I can agree with that because I think it is time we let the world take care of themselves. The US is allways in a "No Win" situtation. If we do something everyone hate us. If we dont do anything everyone asks why the US is not doing anything.
Its time someone else starts doing something.
Well he advocates the withdrawal from the UN (Kind of have to agree with him, the UN is a Joke...).
He believes in the withdrawal from NATO (that I dont agree with).
He supports tighter border security and ending welfare benefits for illegal aliens (that I completely agree with).
As for Iraq itself. I am not sure what his actual views are. I know he voted against going into Iraq back in 2002.
My views on Iraq might not be the same as his. I believe it is time to start drawing down but we just cant quit what we started.
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet He is kind of a noninterventionalist. I can agree with that because I think it is time we let the world take care of themselves. The US is allways in a "No Win" situtation. If we do something everyone hate us. If we dont do anything everyone asks why the US is not doing anything.
Its time someone else starts doing something.
Well he advocates the withdrawal from the UN (Kind of have to agree with him, the UN is a Joke...).
Yes who came up with the idea that every little tin-pot dictatorship gets 1 vote just the same as the US?
He believes in the withdrawal from NATO (that I dont agree with).
He supports tighter border security and ending welfare benefits for illegal aliens (that I completely agree with).
As for Iraq itself. I am not sure what his actual views are. I know he voted against going into Iraq back in 2002.
My views on Iraq might not be the same as his. I believe it is time to start drawing down but we just cant quit what we started. | I liked Biden's idea for Iraq. Let each region (Sunni, Shite, Kurd) be responsible for its own policing & services in its area (like the Kurd's are already doing). The US would keep 3 or 4 bases on the borders of Iraq, prevent Iranians from bringing weapons across, and hunt down Al-Quaida. Don't try to police a civil war, its a no-win situation.
I like the fact that he has a good knowlege about the rest of the world, that was the original problem in Iraq I think, some in the state department were giving this "Iraqi's will throw flowers at our feet as liberators" story, they didn't really understand the complex problems over there. That's what scares me, what makes Obama or Edwards think that a 1 term senator knows enough to be president?
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Originally Posted by freebird I liked Biden's idea for Iraq. Let each region (Sunni, Shite, Kurd) be responsible for its own policing & services in its area (like the Kurd's are already doing). The US would keep 3 or 4 bases on the borders of Iraq, prevent Iranians from bringing weapons across, and hunt down Al-Quaida. Don't try to police a civil war, its a no-win situation. | Problem is that wont work. When I was in Iraq we brought the idea up. My Division covered everything north of Baghdad up to Turkey. Kirkuk and up was in "Kurdistan" which was pretty much run by the Kurds. We trained the Kurds to protect there own region.
The problem is this the Kurdish area is a very oil rich area. The Shiites and the Sunni's dont want the Kurds to have all the "power".
There were several time I flew Generals up to the Kurdish Headquarters in Irbil (northern Iraq) and we would have lunch with the Kurdish political leaders (on invite from then and the Generals). We would not really speak or open our mouths because well that is not the place of the "normal soldier". Anyhow we listened to what was being said and that was a main concern.
Frankly it would never work...
Civil War would officially break out.
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Country: | Adler, just a suggestion.
As a joke, why not put Bush up? See if anybody would be willing to have him a third term.
Well, it happened with Roosevelt. JK!
I don't know much about Ron Paul. Actually, not much about any of the new ones.
What about Mitt Rommey? Think he could work as President? I guess I have thought about him, since he isn't doing too bad.
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12-08-2007, 10:08 AM
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Country: | I will be voting Republican myself for sure. I so not trust Hillary. I think it is hard to find a honest, politician now a days.
Fisrt off, I do not like Hillary because Bill is her husband! I think both Clintons are as dirty as they come. Bill Clinton makes a mockery of the white house while he is there, commits adultery, has several woman file rape or sexual abuse charges against him, lies under oath, etc.
I do not like Hillary because she grows up in Chicago and lives in Arkansas while Bill is governor, then she most to New York and is a lifelong New yorker suddenly. Her stand on issues is determined by the polls, she goes from state to state, and her accent changes somewhat with that state. she has not accomplished anything in the senate. Blames her vote on the war on Bush. She wants to take credit and use Bill in her campaign, but she does not ant to take credit or acknowledge all the embarassing stuff, or dishonorable things he did. She wants to forget all the negative stuff.
And with all of the scandals they have been tied too, I would they have to have been guilty of being deeply involved in at least one!
And as far as Obama goes, the picture above says I all need to hear!
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