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Old 03-26-2008, 02:07 PM   #1
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If Foreigners Could Vote in '08

Presidential Candidates
Inspire Allegiances
On Every Continent
By DAVID LUHNOW in Rio de Janeiro, JOHN W. MILLER in Brussels, and SARAH CHILDRESS in Nairobi
March 26, 2008; Page A5

If Foreigners Could Vote in '08 - WSJ.com

For America's presidential candidates, the global electoral map is looking as divided as the domestic one.

When foreigners look at the three contenders, Sen. Barack Obama seems to have the lead among Europeans and Africans. Sen. Hillary Clinton is popular among Mexicans and Chinese. Sen. John McCain just returned from a campaign swing through the Middle East and Europe.

U.S. presidential contests often attract interest from foreign countries. The world's sole superpower has such an impact on the globe that, as a Belgian newspaper recently suggested, the rest of the world may feel it should be allowed to vote, too.

This time around, all three candidates have made restoring America's stature abroad a key part of their foreign-policy platforms, making overseas opinions of the U.S. of greater interest to American voters. And the fact that Sen. Obama -- a man with African and Muslim roots and an Arabic middle name, Hussein -- could become U.S. president has created buzz around the world. In Germany, the title of a recent book, "Obama: the Black Kennedy," echoes frequent newspaper headlines comparing Sen. Obama with Germany's favorite former U.S. president. In Kenya, the homeland of Sen. Obama's father, people order the local beer, Senator, by asking for an "Obama."

As in the U.S., however, some people elsewhere harbor doubts about both Sen. Obama's experience and his policies. In China and Mexico, two countries with economies that rely on exports to the U.S., people fret over the senator's antitrade rhetoric and largely back Sen. Clinton on the assumption she will follow her husband's free-trade agenda.

There also are concerns about Sen. Obama's mettle in places like Colombia and Israel, where security concerns trump other issues. In January, the former Israeli ambassador to the U.S., Danny Ayalon, wrote an article headlined "Who are you, Barack Obama?" raising concerns about his stand on the Israeli-Palestinian issue.

Sen. Clinton also gets higher marks outside Europe, especially in Mexico and China, where she benefits from her husband's popular presidency. In Mexico, listeners calling in to one Mexico City radio station picked Sen. Clinton over Sen. Obama, 65%-34%, mostly because of former President Bill Clinton's legacy in signing the North American Free Trade Agreement. Deng Jie, owner of a business in Beijing, said, "I don't know who Obama is. But I think I wish Hillary wins because during the eight years that her husband, Mr. Clinton, was in the position, the U.S. economy went well."

Sen. McCain's recent trip through Iraq, Israel, Jordan and Europe was designed to showcase himself as comfortable with world leaders, knowledgeable about world affairs and able to bolster foreign opinion of the U.S. He ran into embarrassing press coverage when he mistakenly said Iranians were training al Qaeda fighters and sending them back into Iraq. His visit was welcomed in France "because right now, he's seen as an adversary to [George W.] Bush and thus friendly," says Patrick Jarreau, a political reporter for French newspaper Le Monde.

For many Europeans, Sen. Obama's candidacy "is romantic," says Elmar Brok, a German member of the European Parliament and a member of the Parliament's committee on U.S. relations.

Part of Sen. Obama's appeal globally is that he spent part of his childhood in Indonesia and had a Kenyan father, making him particularly popular in Africa.


The western part of Kenya is the ancestral home of the Luo tribe to which Sen. Obama's father belonged. The senator's grandmother is alive and has grown accustomed to foreign journalists tramping to her village home in the area. The rise of a favorite son has been a welcome change from Kenya's own presidential election. The vote was marred by irregularities in late December, spiraling into open ethnic warfare that has killed hundreds. Raila Odinga, the opposition presidential candidate who recently made peace with the Kenya government over the vote, is also a Luo and has called Sen. Obama a "cousin" on the campaign trail.

Muslims across the Middle East have also been drawn into the race, partly because of Sen. Obama's Muslim roots. A practicing Christian, the senator has described his father as a nonpracticing Muslim. "What he has accomplished so far...is in itself an unprecedented U.S. social revolution," wrote leading Egyptian-American democracy activist Saad Eddin Ibrahim in a Cairo newspaper. "If he becomes the president of America, this 'revolution' will become a global one."

But the fascination with Sen. Obama's roots also is tinged with a deep skepticism over how much a fresh face in the White House might change American policy.

Hossein Karmun runs a small grocery store in an Arab-Turkish neighborhood in Brussels and supports Sen. Obama, but he doubts Americans will embrace him in the end. "His middle name is like my name; how is he going to win in America?"

--Alistair MacDonald in London, Mariam Fam in Cairo, Egypt, Cam Simpson in Jerusalem and Kersten Zhang in Beijing contributed to this article..

Write to David Luhnow at david.luhnow@wsj.com and John W. Miller at john.miller@dowjones.com
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Old 03-26-2008, 02:39 PM   #2
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Interesting, wonder how Russia would vote ?

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At a guess, anyone but McCain
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Vote & draft? :)

If citizens of other countries want to be able to vote in America's elections, they should be willing to be drafted and serve in America's army too!
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At a guess, anyone but McCain
so true!

sometimes this guy reminds me of good ol' Barry Goldwater
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If citizens of other countries want to be able to vote in America's elections, they should be willing to be drafted and serve in America's army too!
All this is saying is who they would vote for if they were Americans and vote.

They dont actually want to vote in our elections...
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If citizens of other countries want to be able to vote in America's elections, they should be willing to be drafted and serve in America's army too!
Might be a good way to see who is worthy to become a citizen wouldn't it?
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I like to see who the world likes best, then vote the other candidate.
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Yeah well to be honest I doubt anyone here would be interested in voting U.S.A.'s candidates...we have enough problems with ours and this damn summit just turned the whole city into a hornets nest...
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what summit was that kon, well i think its ok for the world too have a interest in are elections , but too point out that if it was up too the world they would strip us bare . we as americans need too protect are national pride , and alot of people out there dont want us too have that, obama is a fake , hillary is a liar and back door commist, macain well he seems too be the only choice who wont throw us too the wolfs,
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When foreigners look at the three contenders, Sen. Barack Obama seems to have the lead among Europeans and Africans. Sen. Hillary Clinton is popular among Mexicans and Chinese. Sen. John McCain just returned from a campaign swing through the Middle East and Europe.
Somehow that paragraph just struck me as funny how John McCain is given the shoulder.

What's going on Konigstiger? Nothing too bad I hope.
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There is the NATO summit.Apparently Bush will be here too so certain streets are closed, mainly in the center of the city where in normal days the traffic its a nightmare so you can imagine how it is now.Police crews at every intersection, when in normal days you barely see a patrol car.Anyway its just madness...
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I go along with Sys, let the "world" tell us who they like. I will vote for the other candidate. My attitude about the "world" is that I don't care if they "like" us. I do care if they respect or maybe fear us.
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My choice is McCain. I perfer a man who has had experiences in life to the extremes. McCain went from being in a Military Naval Family with generations of Military experiences. Not just his own but also his Grandfather and Father. In this I believe McCain has lived in an area of observing not only the Military but also Civilian areas world wide denied most people and to the extreme of being a POW in Hanoi. He went from a Military Enviroment to that of a Brutal Oppression by a Brutal Regime as this Prisoner of War. Giving him an insight to to baseness of Humanity. And he has and had the courage to recognise that even being a POW gained and gave him an inner strength by enduring his time as a POW. As he has also years more experiences in Politics and Life in general then Obama or Clinton. I would vote for McCain. Fact is as far as Politicans go. I believe if McCain gave his word he would keep it. As for the code of Military Conduct he was infused with whilst in the US Navy. He strikes me as that type of Man. Honour Courage Loyalty. Something Clinton and O'bama in my opinion don't have in great abundance and I doubt could spell these words any way
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Emac, I like your choice and your reasons for that choice. I may not always agree with everything McCain espouses but he is a man of good character and understands our national security issues.
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