 | Insulting Islam's Prophet| Politics Discuss Insulting Islam's Prophet in the Current forums; I can only see one solution worth respecting. blow it all off for a monster Velodrome, I did over 100 ... |
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12-01-2007, 11:44 PM
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#46 | | the old Sage
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Country:  | I can only see one solution worth respecting. blow it all off for a monster Velodrome, I did over 100 miles on the 2 wheeled thing to day in the cold iceberg wind, it would be nice to have something enclosed to ride in.
sad they see only one thing and understand this, to live is to use the sword and to die by it ...... | 
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12-02-2007, 12:54 AM
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#47 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country: | Erich, you are a bi-cycled man of impressiveness. Cheers my friend.
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12-02-2007, 04:29 AM
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#48 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Matt308  Me too. How can we ignore the advances in food market bombing efficiency, beheadings with single strokes, oppression of women rights, invention of the burkha, miniaturization of personal explosives, development of low grade missile munitions made from garden utensils, successful political negotiations while maintaining the underlying agenda of giving up nothing, magnanimous emotional manipulation of the freeworld press, etc. 
I hear ya comiso...
Unctious people they are. Unctious. | Hmmm, what about math, writing etc. Most of those things started in the middle east. They used to be much more civilised than western europe and the US in early years.
Don't get me wrong, with all the terrorism and stuf of the last 40 years or so, I'm not very fond of the muslim countries and not likely to go there. But this one-sided view I read in this thread has a little hypocritism in it. Not all moslims live in the middle ages and have hatred towards the western world. And for the mentality, we, western world christians can be just as bad. Or did everyone forget about, for instance, Northern Ireland?
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12-02-2007, 05:45 AM
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#49 | | Senior Member
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Country: | And a great example of how some people in the western world still live in the middle ages as well can be seen in the TPBM thread  http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/off...tml#post296018 (The Person Below Me (TPBM) Pt. III)
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12-02-2007, 12:10 PM
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12-02-2007, 01:45 PM
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#51 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I think we can agree that every country has at one time or another, contributed something to civilization and has a few backwards residents (US trailer parks come to mind).
But how forward thinking are you to kill someone because they gave a name to a toy that may be objectionable? Come on, its not like it was named "Kiss My A**" or "Shiite Scum" or something really horrible!
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12-02-2007, 02:13 PM
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Country: | I agree, Njaco, this is a really stupid case.
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12-02-2007, 02:45 PM
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#53 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country: | And its pandemic folks. It's not an isolated case like that Ahole in the TPBM thread. It is embraced, tolerated and taught at a societal level. Your post Marcel is a little off in my opinion. And the ratio of great achievements between the west and the middle east is night and day. Don't kid yourself.
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12-02-2007, 03:05 PM
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#54 | | Minister of Whoopass
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12-02-2007, 03:14 PM
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Country: | Little of? How so? We must not kid ourselves (in your words) that this kind of behaviour is only limited to the muslims and we're not affected by it. Here in Holland, you have villages were people are so religious, they forbid you to take medicine when you're ill. Someone said it is disturbing that such a large group can display such extreme views. But the biggest and most disturbing examples of such a case was here, in the middle of Europe, Nazi Germany. And I can go on giving you examples like that. Don't get me wrong, I support the war against terrorism, but we have to see it as a war against extremists, against terrorism, not against all moslims in general and we must not see them as inferior to us. Otherwise we'll be as bad as Osama himself and I don't want to lower myself to that level.
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12-02-2007, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt308 You are right Freebird. The north american countries are good, giving, and caring countries that are willing to contribute to societies that are participants in world freedom and potential for democracy.
However, most hardcore muslim/islamist countries are oppressive, intolerant and unforgiving of contrary thoughts. Disgusting. Disgusting compared to most western societies that tolerate, allow, and embrace religion/race/creed/economic status and encourage assimilation. Islam is isolationist. | I think that the generous & optimistic nature of your country might have clouded the judgement in the middle east, they needed alot better understanding of what was POSSIBLE to achieve, instead of IDEAL. It's sad that with so much $$$, lives & political trouble spent in Iraq, America might be headed back to isolationism. They need a much better strategy to deal with these Muslim countries!
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12-02-2007, 03:34 PM
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Country: | Marcel, is that little village in Holland going out and murdering everyone who does take medicine? Has the IRA blown up a resort in Africa? Yes, there are wacko religious groups all over the world and our toleration of those groups is based upon the THREAT they cause. Islam is a threat to everyone who does not believe in Mohamed. If you don't believe, you are an infidel and worthy of death. Period.
And we can all the way through history and find crazy zealots from every religion everywhere but this is now. This is what is dangerous while I am alive not what the Spanish Inquisition was doing.
as an aside, shortly after this came out, hundreds of citizens of Sudan gathered in the streets to demand her death. Thats the culture.
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12-02-2007, 03:43 PM
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Country: | No Njaco, that's not culture, that's politics. it's just the same as nazi germany. I have friends from Iran. They told me that in Iran, most of the demonstrations are organised by the government, civilians are either brainwashed or forced by the government to attend.
By the way, those silly little vilages here have a political party and if they ever get to power, we will get back to the middle ages and yes I believe they will be a thread.
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12-02-2007, 03:52 PM
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Country: | Its politics that has become so entrenched its their culture.
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12-02-2007, 04:11 PM
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#60 | | aka Dickcheese
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Country: | Last I read, the world united to wipe the Nazis off the face of the planet. Good analogy.
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