Iranian President Calls WW2 Holocaust A Myth

[FLYBOYJ]

[quote="Hunter368"]

Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

You're rambling about non-sense. Gave what to who? Are you talking about Iran or Lebanon and who is killing who here? The US had little or nothing to do about the Palestinian/ Jewish situation after WW2 as a matter of fact American Jews were discouraged from going there when the British pulled out, if you knew what you were talking about you would know that!!! Here, read about how Israel was created you seem to be a bit ignorant about this subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

You sound like a babbling fool with no examples or direction. Starve people out? Are you talking about Indians 150 years ago maybe?!? We were talking about the leader of Iran stating there was no Holocaust and Israeli reaction. You're making a fool out of your self, you better quit while you're a head....

Originally Posted by Hunter368

Ok is USA the most hated country in the world or not? Just a simple yes or no answer here will do, You do not need to call names just back up your points with facts, you want facts answer me this, is it the most hated country on the planet ? yes or no be honest Santa is watching you after you have answered this very simple question then I will go from there.

Again you're acting like a fool! most hated country ijn the world?!? That's you're opinion, state fact, not babbling BS....

I've traveled to many parts of this world including your country (as a matter of fact I lived there for 5 years) and feelings are different, I've met people who hate the US, I've met some who love the people and culture, but hate the government, others love everything about the US - it depends who you talk to.....

Again, we were talking about Iran, located several hundered miles away from Isreal (Palestine). Do some research on the subject and we could have a rational conversation.....

[Hunter368]

Flyboy, if you read my first post carefully instead of taking one line out of it you would better understand my point. I agreed that the JEWS were killed by the millions. What I said was if part of my country was given away I would be mad to, are you telling me you would not be mad if NY state was given away? Get real there would a war if that happened.

Next it is a fact that the USA is the most hated country in the world bar none. There is a few reasons for that but here are a few:

-USA thinks it the best country in the world and loves the try and make everyone think that.
-It rams it ideas of right and wrong and culture down everyones throats.
-They only do things that serve them best and their political agenda.
-USA thinks it can just flatten any country that they disagree with. Read many of the USA posts on this very thread, mmmmmm Iran needs to be nuked, flatten, killed etc etc, wake up you can't just kill people that you don't agree with that is why Americans get killed every day around the world.

[evangilder]

That question is ambiguous. It likely depends on WHO you ask that of. And we most certainly do not shoot and kill people who do not bow down to the USA. You have fired up some rhetoric which is obviously going to illicit responses that are not going to be to your liking.

Iran and Palestine are very different and not related at all. The Iranian president is using that situation for his own political agenda.

Iran is a KNOWN terrorist supporting nation. Now they are trying to possess nuclear weapons. Do you really think they are going to keep them for peaceful purposes? This is the same leader who said that Israel needs to be wiped off the face of the earth. Do you see the problem with that???

[FLYBOYJ]

Originally Posted by Hunter368

Again you're acting like a fool! most hated country in the world?!? That's you're opinion, state fact, not babbling BS....

And what does that have to do with this tread or your last statement? You claim the US "gave land away" I assume you were referring Palestine and you were challenged and proved WRONG! A little deflection of ignorance or a convenient way of back peddling?

I've traveled to many parts of this world including your country (as a matter of fact I lived there for 5 years) and feelings are different, I've met people who hate the US, I've met some who love the people and culture, but hate the government, others love everything about the US - it depends who you talk to.....

Again, we were talking about Iran, located several hundred miles away from Israel (Palestine). Do some research on the subject and we could have a rational conversation.....

[Hunter368]

[quote="FLYBOYJ"]

Originally Posted by Hunter368

Again you're acting like a fool! most hated country ijn the world?!? That's you're opinion, state fact, not babbling BS....

I've traveled to many parts of this world including your country (as a matter of fact I lived there for 5 years) and feelings are different, I've met people who hate the US, I've met some who love the people and culture, but hate the government, others love everything about the US - it depends who you talk to.....

Again, we were talking about Iran, located several hundered miles away from Isreal (Palestine). Do some research on the subject and we could have a rational conversation.....

Now now you are getting mad, all I asked you was a simple yes or no question. If you did live here in Canada (not just on a base dealing with the military) you would know alot of Canadians do not like USA politics, we have no problem with the people, you are great people. I have many USA friends and coworks, but USA politics leave something to be desired. The USA is all about $$$$$$ and doing whats best for them. You just have to understand how USA thinks and you will not be surprised by them or their politics. But if you stopped waving your flag and answered my question honestly you would of said yes USA is hated. I would even understand if you did not understand why but just answer honestly. I have travelled around the world, the first thing the locals ask is, are you from USA? I say no why? They say good they are aholes. Like I said I don't hate people from USA, I understand how they think, but alot of people around the world don't.

[FLYBOYJ]

Originally Posted by Hunter368

Next it is a fact that the USA is the most hated country in the world bar none. There is a few reasons for that but here are a few:

-USA thinks it the best country in the world and loves the try and make everyone think that.

Sterotypical ignorant Canadian BS

Originally Posted by Hunter368

-It rams it ideas of right and wrong and culture down everyones throats.
-They only do things that serve them best and their political agenda.
-USA thinks it can just flatten any country that they disagree with. Read many of the USA posts on this very thread, mmmmmm Iran needs to be nuked, flatten, killed etc etc, wake up you can't just kill people that you don't agree with that is why Americans get killed every day around the world.

Boo Hoo, you sound like the typical indignant Canadian I used to deal with who blamed all their problems on the USA, get a grip. Again you're making statements with no intelligent value....

If you had half a brain you would know that the whole radical Islamic movement started in Iran. They are threatening to build nukes and their leader says the Holocaust didn't happen. But big bad US of A are the big bullies again. Get a grip!

[Hunter368]

Originally Posted by evangilder

That question is ambiguous. It likely depends on WHO you ask that of. And we most certainly do not shoot and kill people who do not bow down to the USA. You have fired up some rhetoric which is obviously going to illicit responses that are not going to be to your liking.

Iran and Palestine are very different and not related at all. The Iranian president is using that situation for his own political agenda.

Iran is a KNOWN terrorist supporting nation. Now they are trying to possess nuclear weapons. Do you really think they are going to keep them for peaceful purposes? This is the same leader who said that Israel needs to be wiped off the face of the earth. Do you see the problem with that???

Ok here is a very good question and not just flag waving. Iran is a unstable country yes. Is he using this to his own agenda, yes (very much how USA using things to get their way but that is besides the point). Terrorist supporting country, yes, but again terrorist all depends on your point of view. They have to resort to these tactics b/c how else are they going to fight vs Super powers or even Israel. They are using what they have to, to fight back. Do I like it no, but can I blame them, no. yes they would likely using a nuclear stike, do I like that, no. I never said in any post that I did like that idea. But you do not have to kill them or nuke them first to stop them.

[Hunter368]

Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

Sterotypical ignorant Canadian BS

Boo Hoo, you sound like the typical indignant Canadian I used to deal with who blamed all their problems on the USA, get a grip. Again you're making statements with no intelligent value....

If you had half a brain you would know that the whole radical Islamic movement started in Iran. They are threatening to build nukes and their leader says the Holocaust didn't happen. But big bad US of A are the big bullies again. Get a grip!

Ok now you are getting funny, you say nothing on every post. All you do is ramble, flag wave and blame the rest of the world. Open your eyes man!!! Ok lets try this again are you in the military for the USA or retired military?

[evangilder]

Originally Posted by Hunter368

Ok here is a very good question and not just flag waving. Iran is a unstable country yes. Is he using this to his own agenda, yes (very much how USA using things to get their way but that is besides the point). Terrorist supporting country, yes, but again terrorist all depends on your point of view. They have to resort to these tactics b/c how else are they going to fight vs Super powers or even Israel. They are using what they have to, to fight back. Do I like it no, but can I blame them, no. yes they would likely using a nuclear stike, do I like that, no. I never said in any post that I did like that idea. But you do not have to kill them or nuke them first to stop them.

I never said we had to nuke them first. But we DO need to stop them from creating nuclear weapons. If that involves killing them to do it, so be it.

Think about this...If Iran develops a nuke and decides to use it against a northern part of the US, do you think the fallout is going to only stay in the US? Part of being a super-power involves doing things for the better of the world, whether they are popular or not. Do I agree with everything we do? No, but in the case of Iran, we better do something before a lot of people get killed.

[Hunter368]

Originally Posted by evangilder

I never said we had to nuke them first. But we DO need to stop them from creating nuclear weapons. If that involves killing them to do it, so be it.

Think about this...If Iran develops a nuke and decides to use it against a northern part of the US, do you think the fallout is going to only stay in the US? Part of being a super-power involves doing things for the better of the world, whether they are popular or not. Do I agree with everything we do? No, but in the case of Iran, we better do something before a lot of people get killed.

Ok see I can talk to you, you don't start by calling me names b/c I do not wave a USA flag. Sorry you never said nuke them but other people did. I do agree with doing whats better for the greater good of all people on our planet...... thus stop with nuke weapons. Does that mean killing a few thousand people from Iran, well I don't like that idea but..... To me there is a better way, what is the root cause for all this hate towards USA(and a few other major countries)? That is where we should be starting. Stop trying to react to everything and be proactive about it. Meaning stop killing everyone and start talking to them on a more equal level, until we start doing that this will go forever. If USA thinks it can win the war on Terrorists they are saddly wrong, you cannot kill an idea. People can be killed but ideas and memories cannot. Stop reacting and be proactive !!!

[FLYBOYJ]

Originally Posted by Hunter368

Ok now you are getting funny, you say nothing on every post. All you do is ramble, flag wave and blame the rest of the world. Open your eyes man!!! Ok lets try this again are you in the military for the USA or retired military?

Whos rambling and waving a flag, and as a matter of fact I WAS IN THE US MILITARY AND PROUD OF IT! OPEN YOUR EYES GOOFBALL, YOU COME ON HERE MAKING A STATEMENT THAT WAS WRONG WITH REGARDS TO THE SUBJECT MATTER AND YOUR RESPONSE SHOWS YOU DIDN'T HAVE A FRIGGIN CLUE WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT!!!!

Are you a member of the NDP????

[evangilder]

That in theory sounds like a good idea, but we are talking about people who call the US "the great satan". These extremist muslims will not be happy until the entire Middle East is a Muslim Caliphate. They do not want equality, the want control. Jerusalem has remained an open city under Israeli control. Do you think it would be the same under Arab control?

[Hunter368]

Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

Whos rambling and waving a flag, and as a matter of fact I WAS IN THE US MILITARY AND PROUD OF IT! OPEN YOUR EYES GOOFBALL, YOU CoME ON HERE MAKING A STATEMENT THAT WAS WRONG WITH REGARDS TO THE SUBJECT MATTER AND RESPONSE SHOWS YOU DIDN'T HAVE A FRIGGIN CLUE WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT!!!!

Are you a member of the NDP????

Ok that one was really funny, NDP lol, I like that one. Thats was a good one and no I am not. PC not that it matters. You should be prond of being in the USA military, good for you, i salute you, truely I do not just joking around. I have respect for that, but I feel that it is not allowing you to be truely honest in your answers. You are a pround military person but you are not being objective here. All you will respond to or say is how I said this and I said that but I am not even asking you those questions. Now lets keep going I got a honest answer about you being in the military (which is a honorable thing to do). But like I said you are baised when it comes to talking about USA politics, you are see my other discussion with the other guy from USA and we are having a very nice polite talk about this thread, you resort to name calling, talking about things I don't even ask you about etc. If you want to talk and debate thats fine but please do so like a adult and have alittle respect for your fellow man even if you don't agree with him.