Iranian President Calls WW2 Holocaust A Myth

[Pisis]

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer

TEHRAN, Iran - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad escalated his anti-Israeli rhetoric Wednesday, calling the Holocaust a "myth" used by Europeans to create a Jewish state in the heart of the Islamic world. His remarks drew swift condemnation from the White House, Israel, Germany, France and the European Commission.

Germany said the remarks would affect upcoming negotiations over Iran's nuclear program, and European Commission President Jose Manual Barroso said Iranians "do not have the president, or the regime, they deserve."

Ahmadinejad last week questioned whether the Nazi destruction of 6 million European Jews during World War II occurred and said Israel should be moved to Europe. He also provoked an international outcry in October when he called for Israel to be "wiped off the map."

But Wednesday was the first time he publicly denied the Holocaust. Touring southeast Iran, Ahmadinejad said that if Europeans insist the Holocaust happened, then they are responsible and should pay the price.

"Today, they have created a myth in the name of Holocaust and consider it to be above God, religion and the prophets," Ahmadinejad told thousands of people in the southeastern city of Zahedan.

"If you committed this big crime, then why should the oppressed Palestinian nation pay the price?" Ahmadinejad asked rhetorically.

"This is our proposal: if you committed the crime, then give a part of your own land in Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to them so that the Jews can establish their country," he said, developing a theme he raised in Saudi Arabia last week.

The White House denounced the comments and said they show why Iran must not develop an atomic bomb.

"All responsible leaders in the international community recognize how outrageous those such comments are," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said, adding that they "only underscore why it is so important that the international community continue to work together to keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons."

German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier called the remarks "shocking and unacceptable." He said the German government had summoned the Iranian charge d'affaires to make its displeasure "unmistakably clear."

"I cannot hide the fact that this weighs on bilateral relations and on the chances for the negotiation process, the so-called nuclear dossier," Steinmeier said, referring to European talks with Iran on its nuclear program.

The German government said Chancellor Angela Merkel would call on the European Union to press for international condemnation at the United Nations.

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said: "The repeated outrageous remarks of the Iranian president show clearly the mind-set of the ruling clique in Tehran and indicate clearly the extremist policy goals of the regime.

"The combination of fanatical ideology, a warped sense of reality and nuclear weapons is a combination that no one in the international community can accept," Regev added, referring to allegations that Iran is developing nuclear bombs.

Avner Shalev, the director of Yad Vashem, Israel's memorial to the Holocaust in Jerusalem, said Ahmadinejad's comments required a "stronger response from world leaders."

"Every genocidal statement has to be taken seriously because the Holocaust occurred, and the world knows it. Therefore, we don't just condemn these comments, we believe that the international community and the United Nations should deal with them more seriously," Shalev said.

In Strasbourg, France, Barroso said the president's comments were "completely unacceptable."

"This shows the nature of (Iranian) regime," he said. "With the great respect I have for that country, that people, the great history of that country, I say they do not have the president, or the regime, they deserve."

France's Foreign Ministry also condemned Ahmadinejad's remarks.

Ahmadinejad said the West had harmed Muslims, invaded their countries and plundered their wealth.

"If your civilization consists of aggression, making oppressed people homeless, suffocating the voices of justice and bringing poverty to a majority of the world's people, we say loudly that we hate your hollow civilization," he said.

Ahmadinejad has been unapologetic about taking Iran on a more openly defiant course, insisting on Iran's right to develop its nuclear program — which it insists is peaceful — and often using rhetoric reminiscent of the 1980s heyday of the Islamic Revolution.

The president's views sharply conflict with those of predecessor Mohammad Khatami, a moderate who used to call for dialogue among civilizations and promoted a low-key understanding with the United States that stopped short of diplomatic relations.

Inside Iran, Ahmadinejad's remarks have been criticized by some of his conservative allies, who fear he is hurting the country's image. Moderate Iranians have called on the ruling Islamic establishment to rein in the president.

But Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the ultimate say, has backed Ahmadinejad's calls for Israel's elimination.

Ahmadinejad criticized the United States for refusing to sell Iran spare parts for its civilian planes as part of its long-standing embargo against the country.

Iran has suffered a series of plane accidents — most recently on Dec. 6, when an aging U.S.-made military transport plane crashed into a tall building in Tehran, killing 115 people. Iranian officials have blamed Washington for the crashes, saying they are partly caused by the difficulty in obtaining spare parts.

"No country is authorized to impose spare-part sanctions against another country. Nothing can justify this," Ahmadinejad said Wednesday.

Ahmadinejad said the denial of spare parts was a reason why Iran would not trust Western promises to give it nuclear fuel. The country is currently at loggerheads with the West over its insistence on enriching uranium to fuel its first nuclear reactor, which is due to start generating electricity next year.

The Europeans, with U.S. backing, do not trust Iran to have its own enrichment process since highly enriched uranium can be used for nuclear warheads. Europe has offered to sell enriched uranium for the reactor, but Iran has rejected this.

The United States is pushing to have Iran referred to the U.N. Security Council, where it could face sanctions for violating a nuclear arms control treaty.

Ahmadinejad said that if Iran gave in on the nuclear dispute, there was no guarantee the West might not refuse to sell nuclear fuel in the future.

"I assure you that we won't step back one inch from our nuclear rights," the president told the crowd, drawing chants of "Death to America!"

Iran is due to resume negotiations on the nuclear issue with envoys from Britain, France and Germany starting Dec. 21 in Vienna, Austria.

[FLYBOYJ]

He's a freakin jerkoff!!! The last Iranian president a least hinted signs of co-existence with Israel and the west. If he keeps it up the Israelis are going to blast him....

[syscom3]

I dont know if its by design or not, be seems ot be isolating himself internationaly quite well. I suspect quite a few arabs see the Iranians as more of an enemy than Israel.

[Hunter368]

In some very small way I do agree "alittle with him". If part of my country was given away (by some powers "greater" than us) I would alittle ticked also. As far as the West plunder their wealth, ahhhhh booohoo. They have been selling oil to us for how long???? Charging us how much??? That I do not feel sorry for them. Did that happen to the Jews in WW2, yes, did many many countries pows get treated badly, killed, beaten yes (Germany, Japan, USA, Russia, Britain all of us). Did all of the countries get tried for their crimes? no. Germany and Japan were tried. Was Britain, USA, Russia ? no

There is soo many threads that could be started just from this one wow.

[Maestro]

Sheesh... Some Iranian asses desperately need some kicking.

[FLYBOYJ]

Originally Posted by Hunter368

In some very small way I do agree "alittle with him". If part of my country was given away (by some powers "greater" than us) I would alittle ticked also.

What part of Iran was given away? If we're talking Palestine, its quite a distance from Iran, and they, the Iranians (Persians) have little or nothing in common with Palestinians (except religion). He's instigating a situation that's existed for years and if he keeps it up Isreal is going to do to Iran like they did to Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, etc. etc., etc......

[Erich]

look at the fool in charge of Iran yep he must be thinking if Israel comes over again and pops our nuclear reactor like they did years ago that should give me sufficient reason to outlash a full on Ji'had on them...........like it will matter. Israel will just go in and waste the country, which they should.

Iran has nothing to do with the Palestinians except the latter wants an additional ally for it's pity party

[evangilder]

Exactly, Erich. I don't know about all of you, but I have about had enough of the new Iranian president. There are even people in Iran that think he is going too far!

[lesofprimus]

Sounds to me like having a nuclear option has giving this dipshit some balls.... I think its high time to cash in this guys chips...

[Gnomey]

Couldn't agree more Erich, Les and Eric. It has come to a point when we are just going to have to blast Iran for a bit. That point is now, he is just being a complete arsehole who needs some sense blown into him by some well placed bombs.

[evangilder]

Well said, Les and Gnomey.

Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

What part of Iran was given away? If we're talking Palestine, its quite a distance from Iran, and they, the Iranians (Persians) have little or nothing in common with Palestinians (except religion). He's instigating a situation that's existed for years and if he keeps it up Isreal is going to do to Iran like they did to Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, etc. etc., etc......

Let me see where to start, Britain, USA for the most part gave away a part of land to a people they felt sorry for, booowhooo. Then you can't understand why they are mad for so many years? Let me spell it out very careful for you. Ok if the world gave NY state to mmmmm the Jews would you be happy ? nope. It does not take alot of understanding to feel alittle understanding for their plight. Ok I understand their are alot of Americans on this site so I am ready for this feedback from this next comment. When will you Americans understand that you cannot shot and kill everyone that does not bow down to the Almighty USA. Yes you can starve them out, give them no technical help, lend them no money etc etc, but you cannot just kill people and think that will fix it. You would think USA of all would understand that and until you do you, Americans around the world will be killed for your arrogance. WAKE UP USA!!!

[Hunter368]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Let me see where to start, Britain, USA for the most part gave away a part of land to a people they felt sorry for, booowhooo. Then you can't understand why they are mad for so many years? Let me spell it out very careful for you. Ok if the world gave NY state to mmmmm the Jews would you be happy ? nope. It does not take alot of understanding to feel alittle understanding for their plight. Ok I understand their are alot of Americans on this site so I am ready for this feedback from this next comment. When will you Americans understand that you cannot shot and kill everyone that does not bow down to the Almighty USA. Yes you can starve them out, give them no technical help, lend them no money etc etc, but you cannot just kill people and think that will fix it. You would think USA of all would understand that and until you do you, Americans around the world will be killed for your arrogance. WAKE UP USA!!!

Sorry that was me saying this, I forgot this site allows you to post without being signed in. Didn't want anyone to think I was not brave enough to put my name to this post. Respond away.

[FLYBOYJ]

Originally Posted by Hunter368

Sorry that was me saying this, I forgot this site allows you to post without being signed in. Didn't want anyone to think I was not brave enough to put my name to this post. Respond away.

You're rambling about non-sense. Gave what to who? Are you talking about Iran or Lebanon and who is killing who here? The US had little or nothing to do about the Palestinian/ Jewish situation after WW2 as a matter of fact American Jews were discouraged from going there when the British pulled out, if you knew what you were talking about you would know that!!! Here, read about how Israel was created you seem to be a bit ignorant about this subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

You sound like a babbling fool with no examples or direction. Starve people out? Are you talking about Indians 150 years ago maybe?!? We were talking about the leader of Iran stating there was no Holocaust and Israeli reaction. You're making a fool out of your self, you better quit while you're a head....

[Hunter368]

Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

You're rambling about non-sense. Gave what to who? Are you talking about Iran or Lebanon and who is killing who here? The US had little or nothing to do about the Palestinian/ Jewish situation after WW2 as a matter of fact American Jews were discouraged from going there when the British pulled out, if you knew what you were talking about you would know that!!! Here, read about how Israel was created you seem to be a bit ignorant about this subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

You sound like a babbling fool with no examples or direction. Starve people out? Are you talking about Indians 150 years ago maybe?!? We were talking about the leader of Iran stating there was no Holocaust and Israeli reaction. You're making a fool out of your self, you better quit while you're a head....

Ok is USA the most hated country in the world or not? Just a simple yes or no answer here will do, You do not need to call names just back up your points with facts, you want facts answer me this, is it the most hated country on the planet ? yes or no be honest Santa is watching you after you have answered this very simple question then I will go from there.