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Old 07-12-2006, 12:14 PM   #1
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Israel Attacks Lebanon

Probably all heard about in the news, Hezbollah militants have captured two Israeli soldiers (and killed some more) in a raid. Israel sees this as an act of war and says it will relitaliate with force, they have already pushed into the terroritory in Lebanon they moved out of in 2000. They also consider the Lebanese government to be reponsible for the soldiers wellbeing. All in all the situation has flared up and Erich should dig out his velodrome plans again...

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Hezbollah warns Israel over raids
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I'm working on the Velod. plans this weekend. I told you guys it was going to flare up again .........

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I remember that. The Israeli Air Force just dropped a bomb on the Palestinian ministry.
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Damn someone beat me to starting this thread.

anyhow here is some more info on it:

By SAM F. GHATTAS, Associated Press Writer
56 minutes ago



BEIRUT, Lebanon - Israel intensified its attacks against Lebanon on Thursday, blasting Beirut's international airport and the southern part of the country in its heaviest air campaign against its neighbor in 24 years. More than two dozen civilians were killed, officials said.

The strikes on the airport, which damaged three runways, came hours before Israel said it was imposing an air and naval blockade on Lebanon to cut off supply routes to Lebanese militants.

The airport, located in the Hezbollah-controlled southern suburbs of Beirut, was closed after the attacks and flights were diverted to nearby Cyprus. It was the first time since Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon and occupation of Beirut that the airport was hit by Israel.

Israel also fired a missile at the building housing the studios of Hezbollah's Al-Manar TV in the southern suburbs of Beirut on Thursday morning, the channel's press officer Ibrahim Farhat told The Associated Press. One person was hurt, but the station continued to broadcast.

Overnight Israeli attacks in southern Lebanon, meanwhile, killed 26 civilians and wounded dozens more, Lebanese security officials said. A family of 10 and another family of seven were killed in their homes in the village of Dweir near Nabatiyeh, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity as they were not authorized to speak to the press.

Later Thursday, Lebanese guerrillas fired volleys of rockets at northern Israel, killing an Israeli woman in her home in the border town of Nahariya, officials said. Five people were wounded.

The strikes followed a cross-border raid by Hezbollah guerrillas Wednesday during which two Israeli soldiers were captured. The militants demanded the release of Israeli-held prisoners, but Israel responded by bombing Lebanon and sending ground troops across the border for the first time in six years.

Eight Israeli soldiers and three Lebanese were killed in fighting Wednesday.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called the Hezbollah raid an "act of war" by Lebanon and threatened "very, very, very painful" retaliation. The Cabinet, meeting Wednesday in the wake of the military's highest daily death toll in four years, decided to continue the army operation and call on the international community to disarm Hezbollah, according to participants.

On Thursday, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said the offensive in Lebanon has far-reaching objectives, including pushing Hezbollah militants away from the Israeli border and eventually sidelining the group altogether.

"We must neutralize the hostile terrorist infrastructure that exists in Lebanon," he said.

Israeli Defense Minister Amir Peretz also demanded that Lebanese army forces be deployed along the border. Lebanon has long refused to do this, saying that it is not in business of protecting Israel's northern border.

The Lebanese government said Wednesday that it had not known of the Hezbollah operation, did not condone it and bore no responsibility for it. The Lebanese Cabinet, which includes two Hezbollah ministers, urged the U.N. Security Council to intervene.

Hezbollah's brazen cross-border raid Wednesday opened a second front for the Israeli army. The army launched an incursion into the Gaza Strip more than two weeks ago to search for another Israeli soldier who was captured by Hamas-linked militants.

At least 23 Palestinians were killed in Gaza on Wednesday. And an Israeli airstrike early Thursday destroyed the building housing the Hamas-controlled Palestinian Foreign Ministry.

Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah on Wednesday offered to trade the two captured Israeli soldiers for Arab prisoners, and warned Israel that his guerrillas would fight if attacked. The group says it has over 10,000 rockets and has in the past struck northern Israeli communities in retaliation for attacks against Lebanese civilians.

The attack on the airport occurred shortly after 6 a.m. Thursday. Warplanes struck three runways, leaving a large crater and seven smaller holes, airport officials said. Two flights approaching the airport were diverted to Larnaca airport on Cyprus.

The main terminal building of the $500-million airport, which was built in the late 1990s, remained intact.

The Israeli military confirmed it had struck the airport, saying the facility is "a central hub for the transfer of weapons and supplies to the Hezbollah terrorist organization."

In its overnight attacks, Israeli aircraft and artillery targeted roads and bridges, as well as Hezbollah positions and houses of guerrilla members and leaders. A bridge on the main highway between Beirut and southern Lebanon was hit by big bombs that left huge craters, blocking traffic.

Hezbollah's TV station reported that guerrillas has fired Katyusha rockets at the Israeli border town of Kiryat Shmona and targeted an airstrip in the upper Galilee panhandle. Another barrage of rockets targeted Nahariya near the coast.

Nahariya Mayor Jackie Sabag said the whole town had been shut down and residents were urged to stay in underground shelters. Patients at the town's hospital were moved to rooms on lower floors.

The Israeli army said several rockets had landed more than 12 miles south of the border, showing that Hezbollah has managed to extend its missiles' range.

Israel and Lebanon have a history of conflict, punctuated by a full-scale Israeli invasion in 1982, and its 18-year occupation of a buffer zone in southern Lebanon that was intended to prevent attacks on Israel. The last major Israeli air, ground and sea offensive against Lebanon was in 1996 when about 150 Lebanese civilians were killed.

Israeli warplanes attack Beirut airport - Yahoo! News
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Here is also an intersting take on what possibly could happen.

ANALYSIS: Israel is at risk of embarking on three-front war

By Ze'ev Schiff, Haaretz Correspondent

Two weeks after the start of the IDF's extensive operation in the Gaza Strip, Hezbollah opened a second front on the northern border. The second front, which could expand into Israel, started just as the first did - with the abduction of soldiers from inside Israel and the deaths of others.

Israel faces the danger of a third front if Syria steps in to assist Hezbollah. Strategically, Israel faces an extreme foursome: Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran. Two extremist Islamic organizations considered terror organizations, and two states Washington names in the Axis of Evil.

Israel has no choice but to hold Lebanon responsible for what happens in its borders and for what comes out of it. Lebanon will likely wail as Israel strikes inside its territory and hits its infrastructure, but the Lebanese government must see itself as responsible for what Hezbollah does out of Lebanon. Particularly since Lebanon essentially rejected UN resolution 1559, which called for disarming the militia. Hamas and Hezbollah made the rules of the game with the ongoing rocket fire into Israel and the abduction of Israeli soldiers. If Israel loses in handling this, its strategic and military standing in the region will change and its deterrence of guerrilla warfare and high-trajectory weapons will be undermined.

From the moment the ground incursion into Gaza started, it was possible Hezbollah would try to help Hamas by attacking on the Lebanese border. This option was rejected by most military analysts. No unusual alert was evident.

In addition to the desire to help Hamas, Hezbollah has its own grudge to bear with Israel. On May 28, Hezbollah taunted Israel with a Katyusha barrage at an IDF base on Mt. Meron. In response, Israel immediately hit a number of Hezbollah positions along the border. It was clear that Hezbollah, whose leader has often declared his organization would abduct Israelis, was waiting for the right moment, which came Wednesday. There is no need for (res.) Major General Giora Eiland to investigate the event in the north as he did the one in the south. It is better to focus on upcoming developments and the question of how to conduct a war on two and maybe three fronts. Hopefully Israel's leaders will give up the harsh words and exaggerated threats we have seen in the past two weeks.

Israel's options now are aggression on two fronts. Israeli would best act cautiously in order not to open a third front with Syria, unless Damascus taunts Israel.

Clearly Israel will strike Lebanese infrastructure related to Hezbollah and may expand its targets in its wrath. For years, Israel neglected the rocket system Hezbollah built in Lebanon with Iranian and Syrian help. It took no preventative measures against the convoys and storehouses of weaponry. We thought they would rust and now they are directed at Israel. There is also an absurd situation where we ignored Hezbollah positions adjacent to the border and to our Galilee communities. Some of those positions were once IDF outposts.

Israel must not allow Hezbollah to return to border positions. This is a clearcut defensive tactic and, in any case, Hezbollah is taking the offensive against Israel. Israel's operation in Gaza is not enough. The Gaza front will become secondary if the fighting in the north expands. If Israel wants even partial international support, it must avoid causing a humanitarian crisis in Gaza. After Wednesday's events on the northern border, international efforts to mediate on the matter of the abductees and the prisoners will increase and address additional issues. In which case, Israel will have little time for a broad military operation.

ANALYSIS: Israel is at risk of embarking on three-front war - Haaretz - Israel News
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Lebanon and Syria are nothing and Israel has taken them on in the past. Syria is supporting terror activites and we /you Chris felt the brunt of it while stationed in Iraq. My feelings: keep going east of Lebanon and have an early breakfast with the Iranian Führer.

as you are pointing out subtely Israel is oping for a total unification of Muslim countries against her .......... and it has been odd over the many years since 67 why they have not done so in the present. ~ Fear ~
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Ever since the 1940's Israel has always been attacked by members of the Arab world. I dont blame them for stating an act of war. I feel though, that we do not send troops to fight the war for them. Israel has built itself up to where it can fight for itself against its enemies.

A three front war may give them a challenge, but not defeat. If they are on the brink of losing, I feel the UN should send troops, not the U.S.
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Lebanon and Syria are nothing and Israel has taken them on in the past. Syria is supporting terror activites and we /you Chris felt the brunt of it while stationed in Iraq. My feelings: keep going east of Lebanon and have an early breakfast with the Iranian Führer.

as you are pointing out subtely Israel is oping for a total unification of Muslim countries against her .......... and it has been odd over the many years since 67 why they have not done so in the present. ~ Fear ~
I agree, I think Iran will take advantage of this situation.
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If it's just Palestine,Lebanon, and Syria the US Army will most likely stay put in shrinking terrorist infested Iraq. If it's Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran the US Army may start packing up. Because then one of OUR enemies will be beating up our pal, and quite happily we may get the chance to go against Iran and it's crazy missiles. And maybe bonk Korea just for good measure since Japan, one of our allies, is also pretty nervous about them. And hopefully by this time China will have started to behave itself..........


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Hard to tell. The soldiers in Iraq right now are pretty hurt for weapons and supplies to do the job needed there. The Armoured units has declined. We would need to build up troops that we do not have right now to enter into Iran.
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I agree, I think Iran will take advantage of this situation.

If Iran jumps in they might as well do the East Indian woman marriage tradition and put a target on there f**king forehead, all I can say is Isreal is gonna kick some ***, and I dont think they are gonna be taking UN advice anytime soon
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I think they are pretty well fed up with the UN.
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well Israel has rolled up Gaza in the past without any UN intervention, I mean honestly what are those guys going to do, stand in the middle of the two factions and get plastered ? right now israel is movin on the pavement, Lebanon could be in the here-after the rate they are proceeding. when I was over there in 1980 Lebanon was taking a very solid stance in doing absolutely nothing in controlling their self-deserving interest groups and it has not changed. If only they had been smart enough to get the folk back to wrok repairing their towns and cities. but hey they do not think like us westerners.....

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well Israel has rolled up Gaza in the past without any UN intervention, I mean honestly what are those guys going to do, stand in the middle of the two factions and get plastered ?
Didnt you know? thats our most effective tactic, you know why, we dress up in desert camo in the greens and the site of that confuses them so much they completely halt! same goes in the desert too, except we wore Green jammies in the Desert (but that was so the taliban didnt mistake us Canadians for Americans)
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