Israel and Palestine

Pisis · 08-13-2005, 08:09 PM

They diagree with existence of Israel - call it occuppation - because in their belief Israel shouldn't exist until the Third Temple is built. Freaks...

plan_D · 08-13-2005, 08:10 PM

ariel, you're a *****. Put that race card away, use it on something more worthwhile.

And I know it's Zionist, Pisis. Despite the fact that has it's own contradictions.

Pisis · 08-13-2005, 08:11 PM

Hmmm Ariel, it's obvious that Israel is supported heavily from the USA. It was even financed from the USA in the 50's and 60's

ariel81 · 08-13-2005, 08:11 PM

sorry pisis,you are wrong,the only orthodox who dont recognize israel is neturei karta,a tiny group of 1000 thousand people
the rest are not sionits,but they recognize israel
and they are agains a paestinian state,the only one who is for a palestinian state is the same neturei karta

andf they are not agianst per se,they are against of doing the state before the messia came

ariel81 · 08-13-2005, 08:13 PM

i'm a *****??*****'s dont fight in gaza and lebanon

sorry pisis,but we only started to receive aid (civil and military) from the us after the 6 day war

plan_D · 08-13-2005, 08:14 PM

You're constantly proving you do not have a clue. The U.S were the first to accept Israel as a nation. The U.S uses it's U.N veto to halt any U.N investigation into the Israeli military. The U.S gives Israel weapons. The U.S babies Israel!

The U.K and U.S are an alliance of which both nations are extremely glad to be a part of. You don't have a clue about the U.S/U.K alliance, so don't even try and start.

ariel81 · 08-13-2005, 08:14 PM

and we recevie 3000 million dolar from us,1800 military aid,and the rest civilian,for a 55.000 million dollar budget,so it's a bit more than 5% of the budget,so it's not heavily,and it's not what makes israel live

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-13-2005, 08:17 PM

But it started Isreal.

plan_D · 08-13-2005, 08:17 PM

It's still military aid! You've just proved my point exactly. The U.S babies the Israel because Israel is a creation of the U.S.

ariel81 · 08-13-2005, 08:17 PM

sorry but the us aid in armas only startred to came after the 67 war,prior to that we used french hardware

us put patriot misisiles in israel for us to stay out of the war

sorry plan d but your littleisland is indpendent just because there is a us,and even in the falklands war,against a shitthy country like argentina,your country dependended on us help

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-13-2005, 08:17 PM

Im sorry but I am with Plan_D on this one.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-13-2005, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel81

sorry plan d but your littleisland is indpendent just because there is a us,and even in the falklands war,against a s**t country like argentina,your country dependended on us help

Whoah where did the US give aid to England during the Falklands war. That is new to me.

ariel81 · 08-13-2005, 08:20 PM

nom,israel it;s independent from 1948,and the aid started coming in 1967,almost 20 years later

and you seem to ignore that us placed and arms embargo top israel on 1948,at that time,we bougth our guns in the chekoslovaquian republic (mostly mauser rilfes,mg34 machine guns and avia s199 planes)

Pisis · 08-13-2005, 08:21 PM

Hey there was finincial support from Jews in the US to purchase Matosim & guns from Czechoslovakia, I've studied this.

And you're right with the messiah, but there is also a certain group of Jews (what the hell are they I dunno) who don't recognize SI. They were protesting in front of the White House a few weeks ago.

plan_D · 08-13-2005, 08:21 PM

The U.K had to fight against the Empire of Japan, Germany, Italy and Romania during World War 2. We managed to hold off the Luftwaffe during the Battle of Britain before the Lend-Lease act. We are thankful of the U.S helping us but that's forged a great alliance between the two nations. None of us hold anything against either one, so you should really just hush up because the Americans on here have much more right to go on about Lend-Lease than you do but they don't because...they're decent people. (Did I just call yanks decent?)

What aid did the U.S give during the Falklands War? Nothing. You're full of the greatest amount of bullshit in the history of the world, ariel. Are you anti-Anglo or something?