 | Israel and Palestine| Politics Discuss Israel and Palestine in the Current forums; No Marconi you are wrong it all goes back to Religion. They believe that Islam is the only religion and ... |
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07-31-2005, 04:24 PM
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#61 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | No Marconi you are wrong it all goes back to Religion. They believe that Islam is the only religion and that all the zionists must die. You say that before the creation of Isreal there were not that many concflicts with the western world, well you are wrong. Look at the Crusades. What caused them RELIGION. The only reason the were not fighting until during the World Wars is because they were controled by someone who held them together. First the Ottomans, then the British.
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07-31-2005, 04:47 PM
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#62 | | the old Sage
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Country:  | it is a relgious war and also about the power to have great amounts of land.... | |
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07-31-2005, 05:09 PM
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#63 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Yeap agreed with you 100%.
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07-31-2005, 05:37 PM
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| Quote: |
They believe that Islam is the only religion
| The same can be said about any religion.BTW Hitler didn't need any religion to state that Quote: |
all the Zionists must die
| Rather strange example.Crusades were made by Christians and so they should be blamed for those wars.This example also shows that not only Islam can be dangerous.BTW, as far as I know Islam is quite similar to Christianity.In fact Muslims divide people into three categories: 1.Those who believe in True God 2.Those who believe in True God but they do it in incorrect way(Christians, Jews) 3.Unfaithfuls  agans and atheists.Islam is second largest religion in the world yet there is no third world war with them.I think that any religion or ideology can be interpreted in such way that it becomes something terrible.Remember inquisition. Christians weren't good boys all the time.I think that Asama Bla-Bla-Bla and other terrorist bosses and guys who support them with money... well, all that creepy company just uses Islam as a tool to escalate violence and persuade those stupid boys to blow themselves in the name of Allah.Yes, there are probably some religious fanatics among terrorist leaders, but I don't think they play a great role in this mess.
P.S. All this is my IMHO based on what I know and what I remember about Islam.If I am incorrect, please, I'd like yo hear your critics. | |
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07-31-2005, 06:33 PM
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#65 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Any religion or religious leader who calls for the death of another in the name of their god should be eliminated. End of story!
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07-31-2005, 07:15 PM
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#66 | | the old Sage
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Country: | The Crusades was an attempt to secure Jerusalem and the cities within Israel in the name of the European coalition. this was to be an overall invasion to take out any and all mideasteners including any Jews that stood in the way of Crusading~European foot/horsemen. Evangelising the mideastern peoples was way down the list. Of primary concern was the acquisition of all lands if possible with ports of entry and the vast gold/jeweled encamps, or at least this is what many Europeans were told. the idea of a get-rich quick campaign was of prime importance to many of those involved in the long hot escapades | |
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08-03-2005, 05:32 PM
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#67 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | But it still came down to religion.
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08-03-2005, 05:36 PM
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Country:  | It came down to the gathering of wealth in the name of religion. The fact is though, the last Crusade was over 700 years ago. Christian Europeans have moved on since the days of mass genocide against other religions.
Hitler was not a Christian, by the way. What Hitler felt was a purely racial hatred, religion never entered the fray. Only in publications and attacks made by modern day thinkers has the Catholic Church and Christianity been brought in.
Hell, they evern had a freakin' Moslem SS Division!
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08-03-2005, 05:38 PM
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#69 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I agree with you however I was just making a point that it all came down to religion when it comes to middle eastern wars and fighting.
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08-03-2005, 05:39 PM
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#70 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Oh right, yeah. I was just talking about the Crusades.
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08-03-2005, 05:40 PM
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#71 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I think we understood each other just got kind of lost in the translation.
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08-03-2005, 05:58 PM
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#72 | | Senior Member
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| Well, it was only my IMHO about reasons of problems in Mid-East.But those reasons aren't good enough to make ordinary hating USA.Seriosly, why should Saudi citizen blow up English vehicle in Iraq?Because English Goverment supports American Goverment which supports Israel Goverment in it's confrontation with Palestine?Or because of oil fields in Iraq?Yet Islam is an obvioussolution.It HAD TO come down to religion. | |
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08-05-2005, 09:25 PM
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#73 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | No it does come down to religion. If they attacked the WTC because we support the Isrealis does that not come down to religion.
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08-06-2005, 02:28 PM
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#74 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | ...Because "they" hated Jews/Israelis even before the State of Israel itself was cretaed... ("Hell, they evern had a freakin' Moslem SS Division!")
And they believe the USA is run by Jews (I dunno but maybe it's truth up to some level...) | |
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08-07-2005, 08:04 AM
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#75 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | No its not run by jews but rather like all governments its run by the lawyers and rich.
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