Israel and Palestine

Pisis · 08-07-2005, 10:46 AM

Sure I know it, but most of the people are antisemitic/hysteric/paranoiac and believe in it. What do you think a 15 yo guy from Nabulus knows about the outside world...

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-08-2005, 07:13 AM

You got me.

Erich · 08-09-2005, 05:16 PM

very simple, Israel and what it stands for, it's generations and any Gentile nation supporting the state of Israel in any way shape or form is looked down upon by other mid-eastern nations with the end result ~ death by any means.

Religious war - yes !

Land war - yes ! land is everything, it is survival

Pisis · 08-10-2005, 10:24 AM

of course... I'm very sad when I see what is happening with the land there... giving the Palestinians Gaza and West Bank is like flushing a raich dinner into the toilet because it is not kosher

Erich · 08-10-2005, 11:11 AM

it's not theirs anyway, but that is a point for another thread. they need to go back to Crete and Greece where they came from

Pisis · 08-10-2005, 11:33 AM

who? jews?

plan_D · 08-10-2005, 11:36 AM

Israelites should just go away and do what they were doing before World War 1 which was spread throughout the world in a decent manner. Instead of claiming Israel as their own. They only got that country by invasion of immigration, just like the Muslims are doing in Britain. They're no better, no worse than the Islamic SOBs that pollute British culture and society.

Pisis · 08-10-2005, 11:38 AM

Aha. And how did the Britons get "their" country? Are you sure your roots go to Celts or Vikings?

You show a basic lack of knowledge. OK, again...

Most of the Jeiwsh immigrants whether it was pre-WWII or after, bought-out the land from Arabs, culturalized it from therefore swamps and after the '48 declared their own State of Israel. Immediately after that six surrounding Arab countries attacked them with only goal - to destroy it. The Jews have won the war and conquered some new territories. The Arab residents decided to leave but all of the surrounding countries blocked their borders for them, the only exception was Jordan. This is where the Palestinian come from. It's not the fault of Israelis, but the fault of Arab themseleves.

plan_D · 08-10-2005, 11:42 AM

Britain is made up of a mass of "races" from inner Europe and the British Isles themselves. They all arrived in the British Isles before Britain was even a nation.

My ancestors are Germanic, they came to the British Isles at some point in the 16th Century and obviously embraced the current culture in the region they were living. Most modern day British people are Germanic.

Celts are originally from the British Isles. Vikings arrived through invasion, pure invasion. The Israelites have no claim to modern day Israel. The only "proof" they have is the Bible and even modern day historians have disproved that book time and time again.

Pisis · 08-10-2005, 11:44 AM

I think we won't ever agree on this topic. BTW, see my edited topic above.

evangilder · 08-10-2005, 11:45 AM

Wait a minute though, d. There are archeological digs that suggest that the lands were occupied by the ancient Jews. That is not using the bible.

plan_D · 08-10-2005, 11:50 AM

You show an obvious lack of understanding, more like. Read this website from Israel historians:

http://www.alternativeinsight.com/Se...of_Israel.html

You'll find that Isrealis did live in, what is now, Israel before the mass immigration invasion. They also lived throughout Arabia, Africa, Europe and North America.

It also shows the several disproving of the Bible and where the Israelites came from.

Enjoy.

plan_D · 08-10-2005, 11:55 AM

You show an obvious lack of understanding, more like. Read this website from Israel historians:

http://www.alternativeinsight.com/Se...of_Israel.html

You'll find that Isrealis did live in, what is now, Israel before the mass immigration invasion. They also lived throughout Arabia, Africa, Europe and North America.

It also shows the several disproving of the Bible and basically anything modern day Israelites cling to as the claim of their land.

By the way, there were Israelites living in modern day Israel but there was never any united Hebrew Kingdom like some people like to believe.

Enjoy.

Erich · 08-10-2005, 12:12 PM

plan you and I have had this discussion since I first joined this board, Phillistines came as invaders and need to head back to Crete/Greece and the Jews land is Israel. sorry friend the Jews do not use the bible as their source as it is the jewish writing written through the Greek. The Jews have their own religious writings. will agree before ww1 the Jews were transported all over the world but this was because of the exodus and what followed, Syria and the Bablynians invaded and hauled off the Jews or I should say the people of Israel to thier own homelands to be used as slaves. The stae of Israel was recognized in the 1940's but this is all old news everyone is aware of.

as Pisis said we will probably agree to disagree on whose land it is. but will say the Palestinians to not have the 'official' right to the country. should they be alowed to stay, yes along with the Jewish folk and others that have been there before WW 1 and the British occupation.

Pisis · 08-10-2005, 12:16 PM

Good site, got it bookmarked.

"By the way, there were Israelites living in modern day Israel but there was never any united Hebrew Kingdom like some people like to believe." - What should I do with that?

OK, so what would you recommend to the Israelis now. To build giant flatboats and live on the Sea?

Israel is a lawful country and has lawful right for self-defence, despite of anti-semitic behaviour of the UN, France and other mu-fux.

Violence is on both sides, for sure. But the original cause isn't from Israelis but from the Arabs, who twice tried to "put the Jews on run to sea"...