Israel and Palestine

ariel81 · 08-12-2005, 05:37 PM

well no,y dont live in argentina,y left some years ago,now y live in israel

Pisis · 08-12-2005, 05:48 PM

I mean originally - he lives in somewhere near TLV. Where do you live?

ariel81 · 08-12-2005, 06:04 PM

rogth now near tel aviv,in guibat shmuel,but neever heard of him,im secular,he's probably religius
you are a jew?? (sorry if y ask,feel free to ignore the question if you like)

Pisis · 08-12-2005, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel81

(sorry if y ask,feel free to ignore the question if you like)

Ken, ve any rotse harbe kesev!

ariel81 · 08-12-2005, 06:13 PM

then ma ata ose sham???ha makom shelja ze po,va haaretz!!!!anajnu mejakim otja!!!!!

Pisis · 08-12-2005, 06:17 PM

ma ze:
-ha makom shelja ze po,va haaretz (to move to Israel?)
-mehakim otkha?

I said "slicha, aval any mevina lotof"

ariel81 · 08-12-2005, 06:25 PM

y said,then what are you doing there??this is your place,israel,the land!!we are waiting for you!!!

Pisis · 08-12-2005, 06:30 PM

yup, i understood, just wasn't aware of the words. it's not that easy, I got a family here, girlfriend, have to finish the school, then maybe. and also im afraid of the army service a bit. and if i'd realise it's bad in israel, i won't have achance to get back.

ariel81 · 08-12-2005, 06:35 PM

ahh,you are young,y thougth that you are older
dont worry about the army,also you can be a jobnik,that is,a non-combat solider,all the danger that you are gonna see as a jobnik is the coffee spilling on your lap

also,if everione,even a ***** like me can do it,you can also

you have time to think
wy you cant come back??it's not the soviet empire anymore

lesofprimus · 08-12-2005, 07:38 PM

ariel, I spent many days in Israel while in the Navy, and never considered it the "soviet empire"...... LOL... Rather enjoyed my time there...

plan_D · 08-12-2005, 10:32 PM

No, they're what the world call historians. They obviously do not believe that all the book says is true and want to discover the truth. It isn't far off from uncovering what Greek Mythology is all about. If you believe in the bible and the stories from the bible, why not believe in Greek Mythology?

An example of Greek Mythology disected is that of the siege of Troy. Troy really did exist and was a free city under the influence of the Hittite Empire when the Greeks invaded it. The Greeks did not set sail against the nation for the sake of Helena but for the richs and gold of Troy. The Trojan Horse is not mentioned in any ancient texts, so therefore is not seen to have existed and is only in existance by the story telling of Greek Mythology.

If they can dissect a story from 2000 years ago of Greek adventures. Why is their dissection of Israeli history so false?

If you want to believe that all the stories about Israel and the Hebrew slaves of Egypt are true then fine. Those men though are not "traitors" they are historians hoping to uncover the truth about ancient movements, kingdoms and wars.

It is your choice to believe them or call them traitors but, to be honest, I'd rather listen to someone who has studied history and has the texts of many empires rather than just read one book about the faith that tells this stories. The same kind of book that tells of a man turning water into wine. It's no more believable than Athena producing a horse of wood that was used to infiltrate the mighty fortress of Troy to save one woman.

ariel81 · 08-13-2005, 01:47 AM

then y will give yopu the links of the israeli universities,you can writhe to the arqueology departaments and ask
www.huji.ac.il
www.biu.ac.il

you have an excelent book.battles of the bible,from haim herzog and mordechai gijon,(gijon is the chife of archeologu of the tel aviv university and herzog was chief historian of the army)and they say that for example,most of the battles i9n the bible are true
the beeing slaves in egipt is only ONE of the things writhem in the bible

ariel81 · 08-13-2005, 01:48 AM

myself y love the russians,but not yhe ones you have to pay,not all of them are like this

Pisis · 08-13-2005, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel81

ahh,you are young,y thougth that you are older
dont worry about the army,also you can be a jobnik,that is,a non-combat solider,all the danger that you are gonna see as a jobnik is the coffee spilling on your lap

also,if everione,even a ***** like me can do it,you can also

you have time to think
wy you cant come back??it's not the soviet empire anymore

I'm not that young, I'm 20 though. I should went to the Czech Army but before they called me, the duty draft was cancelled and installed a Profi Army.

How old are you? 24?

And if I make the alya, I automatically lose my Czech citizenship. Czechs cannot have more than one.

ariel81 · 08-13-2005, 08:09 AM

yes,but that's only inf the chezch goverment founds that you have another one ,and also soon you will have a european nacionality

yes,im 24