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03-12-2008, 09:56 AM
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#76 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Off duty we were not allowed to leave the camp. European soldiers were not allowed either (atleast not when I was there). They too were confined to the camps except for missions.
There was no place to go and party or do anything anyhow. The whole province was destroyed.
There were small shops set up outside of each camp where you could buy movies or small foods and what not. We were allowed to go to to those but that is because we were within sight of the gate.
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03-12-2008, 10:11 AM
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#77 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Thanks for the confirmation.
Wonder what is going to happen to that place next. Seems like once again it is the tinderbox. Hope it stays quiet. Place could use a couple of centuries of relative peace. |
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03-12-2008, 04:21 PM
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#78 | | Senior Member
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Country: | You said it. |
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03-12-2008, 07:21 PM
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Country: | Milos it seems like we are coming down hard on the Serbian forces for some of the war crimes committed, but truth be told there are crimes on all sides. I heard on the news today that 3 Croatian generals have been convicted of war crimes.
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03-13-2008, 02:50 AM
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#80 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Yes they are and they deserve it. I have friends from those parts of Croatia and they said exactly the same things that are in their prosecutions. Serbs were not the only monsters out there. Croats were proud of what they were doing and were proud to be Ustasha and you know who the Ustashas were?
I'm not accusing all Croats for this. |
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03-13-2008, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Milos Sijacki I'm not accusing all Croats for this. | Then you probably should use better wording than this: Quote:
Originally Posted by Milos Sijacki Croats were proud of what they were doing and were proud to be Ustasha and you know who the Ustashas were? |
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03-13-2008, 05:48 AM
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#82 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Milos Sijacki Yes they are and they deserve it. I have friends from those parts of Croatia and they said exactly the same things that are in their prosecutions. Serbs were not the only monsters out there. Croats were proud of what they were doing and were proud to be Ustasha and you know who the Ustashas were?
I'm not accusing all Croats for this. |
The thing is Milos that Serbs, Bosnians, Albaniens and Croations are all in the same boat.
I am not saying that everyone is like that but the people of your region need to learn to get along and stop killing each other. It is really pathetic!
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03-13-2008, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet It is really pathetic! | And annoying. The place brews up every 25-50 years unless there is a strong arm dictator in place. It's really odd. |
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03-13-2008, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by timshatz And annoying. The place brews up every 25-50 years unless there is a strong arm dictator in place. It's really odd. | "Tribalism" is alive and well in the new milennium, not only there but in the Africa, Middle East, former Soviet states, & elsewhere.
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03-13-2008, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by freebird "Tribalism" is alive and well in the new milennium, not only there but in the Africa, Middle East, former Soviet states, & elsewhere. | Hope it stays on that side of the Atlantic. Does nothing good that I can see compaired to what we have now. |
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03-13-2008, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by timshatz And annoying. The place brews up every 25-50 years unless there is a strong arm dictator in place. It's really odd. | Think of all the suppression of autonomy they've had. The individual nations have not ruled themselves much at all. My family left Croatia just before WWI. After the A-H's were out, they invented the state Yugoslavia, which kept dissidents in line by force. Now you have all the member nations picking up the pieces and dealing with hundreds and hundreds of years of foreign domination. Could you expect anything else?
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03-13-2008, 04:13 PM
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Country: | Yugoslavias, in my opinion, both of them-- The Kingdom and the Communist one, were BIG mistakes.
I blame Tito for everything. |
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05-05-2008, 04:23 PM
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Country: | Do you ever heard for Ramus Haradinaj and his brothers, Agim Cheku, Hasim Taci. They are no wariors for independence they are genocidians. Do you see serbians graves ??? Do you heard for yellow house in Albania ??? Who were killed SERBIA CHILDREN in river when they bath ??? Who ruined SERBIAN churches ??? Do you see a list of ,,lost`` SERBIANS in kosovo ??? Human organs from whose nation are taken ??? There is not genocide they are monstrums and hanibalism. SERBIA is lost only one war - propaganda war. SERBIANS are maked genocid nation but we arent that. Shiptars and Albanians yes. KOSOVO IS HEARTH OF SERBIA !!! KOSOVI IS SERBIA !!!Puno podrske za Milosa. Dobio si saborca protiv ovih ovde. |
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05-05-2008, 04:36 PM
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#89 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Milos The Strsljen Do you ever heard for Ramus Haradinaj and his brothers, Agim Cheku, Hasim Taci. They are no wariors for independence they are genocidians. Do you see serbians graves ??? Do you heard for yellow house in Albania ??? Who were killed SERBIA CHILDREN in river when they bath ??? Who ruined SERBIAN churches ??? Do you see a list of ,,lost`` SERBIANS in kosovo ??? Human organs from whose nation are taken ??? There is not genocide they are monstrums and hanibalism. SERBIA is lost only one war - propaganda war. SERBIANS are maked genocid nation but we arent that. Shiptars and Albanians yes. KOSOVO IS HEARTH OF SERBIA !!! KOSOVI IS SERBIA !!!Puno podrske za Milosa. Dobio si saborca protiv ovih ovde. | Milos The Strsljen, you are a perfect example of what is wrong in your part of the world. You only see what others have done and are blind to your own faults.
It is true that Kosovo, Albania, Croatia, Bosnia, etc.. commited crimes against Serbia but Serbians commited crimes against Kosovo, Albania, Croatia, etc..
To deny such things is as wrong as denying the Holocaust.
Until everyone Kosovar and Serbian alike (including yourself) can open there eyes and stop the finger pointing there will never be peace in your region.
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05-06-2008, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Milos The Strsljen Do you ever heard for Ramus Haradinaj and his brothers, Agim Cheku, Hasim Taci | It's a weird world. This guy, Hasim Taci, has been involved into various criminal activities including ethnic cleanzing while being backed up by NATO forces all this time and now he is the Prime Minister of 'independent Kosovo'... Too much...
I wonder if somebody's ever going to put him to trial and restore justice? Better hurry up before Kosovo becomes a part of Albania. |
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