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Old 03-17-2008, 04:13 PM   #1
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Many voting for Clinton to boost GOP

Many voting for Clinton to boost GOP - The Boston Globe

Seek to prolong bitter battle
By Scott Helman
Globe Staff / March 17, 2008

For a party that loves to hate the Clintons, Republican voters have cast an awful lot of ballots lately for Senator Hillary Clinton: About 100,000 GOP loyalists voted for her in Ohio, 119,000 in Texas, and about 38,000 in Mississippi, exit polls show.

Since Senator John McCain effectively sewed up the GOP nomination last month, Republicans have begun participating in Democratic primaries specifically to vote for Clinton, a tactic that some voters and local Republican activists think will help their party in November. With every delegate important in the tight Democratic race, this trend could help shape the outcome if it continues in the remaining Democratic primaries open to all voters.

Spurred by conservative talk radio, GOP voters who say they would never back Clinton in a general election are voting for her now for strategic reasons: Some want to prolong her bitter nomination battle with Barack Obama, others believe she would be easier to beat than Obama in the fall, or they simply want to register objections to Obama.

"It's as simple as, I don't think McCain can beat Obama if Obama is the Democratic choice," said Kyle Britt, 49, a Republican-leaning independent from Huntsville, Texas, who voted for Clinton in the March 4 primary. "I do believe Hillary can mobilize enough [anti-Clinton] people to keep her out of office."

Britt, who works in financial services, said he is certain he will vote for McCain in November.

About 1,100 miles north, in Granville, Ohio, Ben Rader, a 66-year-old retired entrepreneur, said he voted for Clinton in Ohio's primary to further confuse the Democratic race. "I'm pretty much tired of the Clintons, and to see her squirm for three or four months with Obama beating her up, it's great, it's wonderful," he said. "It broke my heart, but I had to."

Local Republican activists say stories like these abound in Texas, Ohio, and Mississippi, the three states where the recent surge in Republicans voting for Clinton was evident.

Until Texas and Ohio voted on March 4, Obama was receiving far more support than Clinton from GOP voters, many of whom have said in interviews that they were willing to buck their party because they like the Illinois senator. In eight Democratic contests in January and February where detailed exit polling data were available on Republicans, Obama received, on average, about 57 percent of voters who identified themselves as Republicans. Clinton received, on average, a quarter of the Republican votes cast in those races.

But as February gave way to March, the dynamics shifted in both parties' contests: McCain ran away with the Republican race, and Obama, after posting 10 straight victories following Super Tuesday, was poised to run away with the Democratic race. That is when Republicans swung into action.

Conservative radio giant Rush Limbaugh said on Fox News on Feb. 29 that he was urging conservatives to cross over and vote for Clinton, their bęte noire nonpareil, "if they can stomach it."

He added, "I know it's a difficult thing to do to vote for a Clinton, but it will sustain this soap opera, and it's something I think we need."

Limbaugh's exhortations seemed to work. In Ohio and Texas on March 4, Republicans comprised 9 percent of the Democratic primary electorate, more than twice the average GOP share of the turnout in the earlier contests where exit polling was conducted. Clinton ran about even with Obama among Republicans in both states, a far more favorable showing among GOP voters than in the early races.

Walter Wilkerson, who has chaired the Republican Party in Montgomery County, Texas, since 1964, said many local conservatives chose to vote for Clinton for strategic reasons.

"These people felt that Clinton would be maybe the easier opponent in the fall," he said. "That remains to be seen."

Wilkerson added, "We have not experienced any crossover of this magnitude since I can remember."

In the Mississippi primary last Tuesday, Republicans made up 12 percent of voters who took a Democratic ballot - their biggest proportion in any state yet - and they went for Clinton over Obama by a 3-to-1 margin.

John Taylor, the GOP chairman in Madison County, said he toured various precincts and witnessed Republican voters taking Democratic ballots to vote for Clinton.

"Some people there that I recognized voting said, 'Hey, I'm going to vote in this primary this year, right now. But don't worry, in November I'll be back,' " Taylor said. "They were going to do some damage if they could."

Another popular conservative radio host, Laura Ingraham, who had also encouraged voters to cast ballots for Clinton, crowed about her apparent success the day after Ohio and Texas voted.

"Without a doubt, Rush, and to a lesser extent me, had some effect on the Republican turnout," Ingraham told Fox News. "When you look at those exit polls, it is really quite striking."

Some political blogs have suggested that the influx of Clinton-voting Republicans prevented Obama from winning delegates he otherwise would have, by inflating Clinton's totals both statewide and in certain congressional districts. A writer for the liberal blog Daily Kos estimated that Obama could have netted an additional five delegates from Mississippi.

It is also possible, though perhaps unlikely, that enough strategically minded Republicans voted for Clinton in Texas to give her a crucial primary victory there: Clinton received roughly 119,000 GOP votes in Texas, according to exit polls, and she beat Obama by about 101,000 votes.

Not everyone casting ballots for Clinton did so primarily to sink her, however. Brent Henslee, 33, a Republican who works at a radio station in Waco, Texas, wanted to keep Clinton in the race to expose more about Obama, whom he sees as more "fluff than substance."

"I'm not buying into all the Obama-mania, is the main reason I did it," he said. "A lot of these people don't know a thing about this guy and they're crazy about him. And I thought that maybe keeping Hillary alive will just shed some more light on the guy."

Of the nine remaining major contests, four - Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Oregon, and South Dakota - have "closed" primaries, which means only Democrats can participate.

If Republicans and conservative independents continue their tactical voting, it may be more likely in Indiana, Montana, and Puerto Rico, which allow anyone to vote, and possibly in North Carolina and West Virginia, which open their primaries to Democrats and independent voters.

"If you are a Republican you could pull a Democrat ballot and vote for the Democrat presidential candidate you think will stand the least chance of beating McCain in the fall general election," the assistant editor of the Greene County Daily World, in southwestern Indiana, wrote in a blog post earlier this month.

Meanwhile, Clinton, despite trailing Obama in delegates, is projecting confidence about her chances as the nomination race careens toward the April 22 Pennsylvania primary. The morning after her big wins in Ohio and Texas, she was asked on Fox News whether she had a message for Limbaugh.

"Be careful what you wish for, Rush," she said with a grin.

Scott Helman can be reached at shelman@globe.com.
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Dangerous tactic.....

To me the the ultimate desired result is to keep that bitch out of the White House. I know that B. Hussein is a flaming lib as well, but at least he doesn't have the sign of the beast on his body.

The strategy is that theoretically McCain beats the witch easier than he could defeat Obama so make Hillary the nominee.

Can't take that chance as far as I'm concerned. If she loses to Obama she will NEVER be president. Then if Obama some how beats McCain in the general we shrug our shoulders and say "Aw Sh*t!".

But if she ever becomes the nominee and beats McCain, we all, and the country, are F**Ked!!!

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Dangerous tactic.....

To me the the ultimate desired result is to keep that bitch out of the White House. I know that B. Hussein is a flaming lib as well, but at least he doesn't have the sign of the beast on his body.

The strategy is that theoretically McCain beats the witch easier than he could defeat Obama so make Hillary the nominee.

Can't take that chance as far as I'm concerned. If she loses to Obama she will NEVER be president. Then if Obama some how beats McCain in the general we shrug our shoulders and say "Aw Sh*t!".

But if she ever becomes the nominee and beats McCain, we all, and the country, are F**Ked!!!

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I'd prefer Clinton over Obama. After seeing that man speak on several occasions, I know view him as wholly incompetent to be in the senate, let alone president - particularly on military affairs.
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Obama would the easier of the candidates to beat.

Once people get to know his policies, the more they see McGovern, Mondale, Carter and Dukakis!
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Obama would the easier of the candidates to beat.

Once people get to know his policies, the more they see McGovern, Mondale, Carter and Dukakis!
That's assuming that the masses will act rationally. I honestly don't think that will be enough to offset the media love affair with "hope and change." Good grief I feel nauseous thinking about him speaking.
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I'd prefer Clinton over Obama. After seeing that man speak on several occasions, I know view him as wholly incompetent to be in the senate, let alone president - particularly on military affairs.
I agree, he is incompetent, but so is Hillary. Tough choice, but I would take the lesser evil of the two evils.

Bottom line is that McCain has got to win.

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I'd prefer Clinton over Obama. After seeing that man speak on several occasions, I know view him as wholly incompetent to be in the senate, let alone president - particularly on military affairs.
Me, too; Barama may talk the talk, but I don't think he can walk the walk. At least Hillary has experience at being the President already.
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For all her faults, I think Hilary has more loyalty to the United States than Barack Obama does. At least she hasn't heard a pastor for 20 years that hates the US. And she salutes the flag and wears a flag pin, while Obama doesn't. I know those last two can be superficial, but at least she is willing to look the hypocrite. I think Obama would actively oppose the US as an independant nation out in the open and quicker than Hilary would.

I think Hilary is more loyal to her own party than even Obama is.
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For all her faults, I think Hilary has more loyalty to the United States than Barack Obama does. At least she hasn't heard a pastor for 20 years that hates the US. And she salutes the flag and wears a flag pin, while Obama doesn't. I know those last two can be superficial, but at least she is willing to look the hypocrite. I think Obama would actively oppose the US as an independant nation out in the open and quicker than Hilary would.

I think Hilary is more loyal to her own party than even Obama is.
Well McCain actually served his country in the military... he didn't serve himself his entire life. There is no argument that either of the two socialists seeking the socialist party's nom are more qualified. And again, loyalty towards a socialist party is not something I value.
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Hillary under fire! What do you think.....

Silver Star, Bronze Star with "V" for valor?? At least a CIB.

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Relax TO.... remember your blood pressure !!

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Man, I sure feel sorry for that little girl in that picture!!!
IMHO I do not see much difference between Hillary and Obama. Both want to raise taxes and spending way beyond what they should be. I've heard some numbers thrown around (wish I could recall them) about how much more taxes would need to be riased to pay for either of thier new programs and expanding of existing programs and the number was staggering. Just was that just raising the taxes on the wealthy would not even come close to paying for it all. They would have to raise taxes for the middle class schmuck like me.
I have my reservations on Mr. McCain, but will have to bite the bullet once more and vote for him.
Getting a right leaning House and Senate are more important the the Presidency in this election I do beleive.
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No worries there Charles. I'm a fine-tuned athletic machine; awesome, indestructible, superhuman!

And don't you love the way she grabbed and disarmed the "sniper" in that photo?

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And don't you love the way she grabbed and disarmed the "sniper" in that photo?


Then she submitted the "Sniper" to cruel and unusual pinishment by pecking her on the cheek. E-gads, she is one sadistic person!!!!
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Will probably do it. Actually, I'm almost positive I'm going to do it. The math has Obama ahead and there is no way Hillary can win. However, if she has a good showing in Pa, she'll get even more nasty than she already is. Getting the Dems to eat each other alive is the desired goal.

If she ends up with the Nomination, it is racism. If he ends up with the Nomination, it's sexism. We all know it really isn't, but that's the way the nutcakes on the far left will see it.
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