 | McCain vs Obama| Politics Discuss McCain vs Obama in the Current forums; It looks like these will be the matchup.
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Will a pissed off democratic white vote swing the election ... |
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05-21-2008, 12:33 AM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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| McCain vs Obama It looks like these will be the matchup.
Your thought?
Will a pissed off democratic white vote swing the election for McCain?
Is Obama the messiah and will freakishly win November?
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05-21-2008, 07:19 AM
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Country: | In that matchup I think McCain will win out. Olabama has too much baggage from Rev. Write and Ayres to his "Let's Talk" Oprah defense policy.
I also think alot of Hillary supporters will be pissed and swing vote to McCain. I don't think he threatens them as much.
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05-21-2008, 08:54 AM
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Country: | There is a lot of publicity being given to "the angry white voters" if Hillary
does not get the nomination. The media is saying the pissed off white
Hillary supporters will go to McCain. Plus you have Ralph Nader who is
in the race as an Independent. He will probably suck up about 2 percent
of someone's votes. Then there is the green party candidate, too.
Wouldn't it be awesome if Colin Powell would toss his hat in the ring, at the
last moment, as an independent ??
Charles
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05-21-2008, 09:51 AM
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Country: | I believe that McCain will win a close race. A lot of democrat and independent voters will tip the scales for him. If hillarita had won the nomination and had campaigned with a moderate message, she could probably have won handily. |
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05-21-2008, 11:38 AM
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Country: | I think Mccain wins it. I don't think Obama is all that strong of a candidate. He doesn't have much of a record to fall back on, unlike Mccain who has decades of service to his country, both in the miltary and politics. Mccain was not my first choice, but i definitely think he is a much stronger, and wiser candidate to how the world works than Obama. He has much moe experiance and wisdom to draw from than Obama or Hillary for that matter. Although he did lose some points with me for the Mccain/Kennedy immigration bill.
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05-21-2008, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ccheese There is a lot of publicity being given to "the angry white voters" if Hillary
does not get the nomination. The media is saying the pissed off white
Hillary supporters will go to McCain. Plus you have Ralph Nader who is
in the race as an Independent. He will probably suck up about 2 percent
of someone's votes. Then there is the green party candidate, too.
Wouldn't it be awesome if Colin Powell would toss his hat in the ring, at the
last moment, as an independent ??
Charles | Messy 1, As Americans, we often poke fun at our politics, And we should!Will Rogers, famous humorist and political satirist would do his act on stage- usually rope tricks, while he delivered his jokes and comments about the President, or Congressmen, or politics in general. I wonder what he would say about our race this year? I can see him up on stage in his cowboy hat, twirling his rope, and saying, "You know, This years Democratic and Republican race for the Presidental Nomination, Sort of reminds me of the story of the Cowboy riding fence in a blizzard.He looks over at the fence, and seeys a sparrow, freezing on the top strand of baredbwire. This usually tough cowboy, gets off his horse and walks over to the sparrow, unpeels its toes from the wire, cups it in his hands and breathes on it. The Sparrow's eyes open a bit wider, so the cowboy puts the sparrow in his overcoat pocket, gets back on his horse and continues on down the trail, until he sees a steaming cowpie in the trail ahead.He gets an idea and gets off his horse, reaches in his pocket, pulls out the sparrow and sticks it up to its neck in the cowpie. The sparrow stirs a little more, so the cowboy, proud of himself, gets back on his horse and continues on down the trail. He no sooner gets around the bend in the trail, when a coyote, who'd been hunkered down in the bushes, comes out, grabs the sparrow out of the cowpie by the neck, tosses him up, catches him in his mouth and gobbles him down! Now, ladies and gentlemen, the moral to the story is this- It's not always your enemies who get you into it - and, it's not always your friends who get you out of it!" To the best of my knowledge, Will Rogers never told this story. But as this campain goes along, it might pay us as Americans, to sit back and laugh at ourselves! We've had worse canidates run - and win, and the Country made it through them! *GRIN*
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05-21-2008, 08:18 PM
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| The one thing I do know about Americans ...Is we run are mouths about being a Dem or Rep...Put when we go in the voting booth ...We do not vote by party...History says that ...So that will give it to McCain... |
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05-21-2008, 08:46 PM
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Country: | I think I'd like a candidate that is not beholding to special interests . I'd be looking at which one recieved the most donations from lobbiests over his career and pick the one with the least.
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05-22-2008, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ccheese
Wouldn't it be awesome if Colin Powell would toss his hat in the ring, at the
last moment, as an independent ??
Charles | I've always preferred Colin Powell, but he will not run because a: his family - especially his wife - is adamantly opposed to him getting involved in politics anymore, and b: he's been disgraced after his UN performance in the lead up to the Iraq war, an event which I believe has personally left him a very bitter man and suspicious of other people's motives.
As for 3rd party candidates, I think Ron Paul could potentially suck up more votes than Nader, who isn't even on the radar screens anymore.
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05-22-2008, 06:11 AM
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Country: | Close race. Remember lots of people vote on emotion, party, gender, race etc. rather than on issues or for the good of the country.
For me the most important issue is judges. Liberal presidents appoint liberal, activist judges who make law, rather than interpret law, to the detriment of the country. We need more John Roberts and less Ruth Bader Ginsbergs at every level of the judicial system.
McCain supporters like myself are hoping that Hillary continues trying to damage B. Hussein's campaign so that he loses the general and she gets her one last chance in 2012.
And it's quite apparent that is exactly what she is doing.
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05-22-2008, 09:30 AM
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Country: | TO, I agree. The appointment of judges is of paramount importance but national security and fiscal integrity rank high on my list. McCain looks good to me on all those issues. If we don't stay strong militarily, we will one day regret it a great deal. All the candidates have ties to lobbyists. That is the way our government works. |
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05-22-2008, 09:49 AM
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Country: | ren, I'm right with you on national security and a strong military.
One issue I don't want to here about is "torture", or as I would rather call it, "coerced interrogation".
Doesn't need to be in the public discussion, because the average person has no understanding of it. Now, I'm not saying that we need to submit prisoners to something akin to the Bataan Death March, but if we were questioning a detained terrorist on 9/10/2001 who had knowledge of the next day's events, waterboarding would be the least of his problems.
TO
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05-22-2008, 11:05 AM
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Country: | Mccain was not my first choice, but i agree with more of his views than i disagree with. Also, IMO, being a US military veteran puts my mind at ease. Serving in the military is the ultimate sacrifice one can give to their country. Knowing that McCain is familiar with war, and I think that someone who has experienced the hardships of war, knows better than anyone when military force should and should not be used, and is not afraid to use it when it is required. I just think a president that has served in the military has an extra edge and is used to being in command and making critical decisions.
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05-22-2008, 11:13 AM
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Country: | Karl Sitts I totally agree with you on poking fun at politics. sometimes it is the only thing that helps the common man make sense or deal with some of the decisions that get made in Washington. I was in elementary school while Reagan was in office, so I did not know or understand too mcuh about him until i got older. My favorite trait about him was his sense of humor. He would poke fun at Washington himself.
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05-22-2008, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot I think I'd like a candidate that is not beholding to special interests . I'd be looking at which one recieved the most donations from lobbiests over his career and pick the one with the least. |
Here's something interesting... Drug industry contributing more to Democrats - Las Vegas Sun
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