 | More liberal indoctrination in the classroom| Politics Discuss More liberal indoctrination in the classroom in the Current forums; It's not enough that the liberals own almost every major media news organ. They own most of the educational ... |
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12-18-2007, 09:37 PM
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| More liberal indoctrination in the classroom It's not enough that the liberals own almost every major media news organ. They own most of the educational establishment too. See how they educate our kids to think "correctly" about illegal immigration? The Columbus Dispatch : Students struggle as immigrants do
POWELL -- The students had a role-play project: assume a Latino identity, build an imaginary life in your home country and develop a workable plan to immigrate to the United States.
Try it legally, Erica Vieyra told her 40 senior Spanish students at Olentangy Liberty High School. Fill out the correct documents, follow the proper steps. And then, after they spent days completing the actual paperwork from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, she took out her red ink pad and stamped a big, fat DENIED across every request.
Now, she told the students, come illegally. Forge your documents, find a way across the border. Then, research real ads and find a place to live in Columbus. Figure out what it would cost, how to get food. Plan how to survive.
The students had to go to real businesses and ask for Spanish-language job applications. They had to visit a bank and ask for new-
account documents written in Spanish.
Vieyra promised them that the process -- even in make-believe -- would frustrate them. But they would gain, she hoped, an understanding of what is one of the most important political and humanitarian issues facing the U.S. government today.
After three weeks of work, the students presented their projects yesterday and discussed their conclusions. Most said it was a grueling experience to even pretend to walk in an immigrant's shoes.
"I can't begin to fathom how they can survive here," said Yana Lyon, 17. "Everywhere you turn if you try to become legal or help yourself, there's a roadblock."
For her project, Yana assumed the identity of 28-year-old single mother Margarita Sola, a barmaid in Tijuana, Mexico. Yana had Margarita stay at a Columbus Knights Inn until she found a $7.50-an-hour job at Chipotle. Eventually, she rented a Town Street apartment for $320 a month because it was close to a bus stop. She quickly found a man to marry to gain legal residency.
At first, Yana didn't want to participate. She said as much to her father one night. She told him it was stupid, a bunch of busywork. He walked away from her and emerged from the basement a few minutes later with a faded box. It contained the paperwork from Yana's adoption from a Russian orphanage in 1994. Yana knew about it, but she'd never seen the papers.
"You tell her you already did it," Robert Lyon told his daughter as he handed her the box. He was supportive of the project, Yana said. But he sensed his daughter's trepidation at exploring a subject sure to be emotional for her.
"This project was about me," Yana said. "I realized that, for a grade, I was about to re-create what my parents had to endure to give me the opportunity to live the American dream. That scared me."
This is the fifth year that Vieyra has assigned this project to students in her Spanish V class. Each year someone, a teacher perhaps, maybe just a friend, cringes: "They say, 'That's such a hot topic. Are you sure you want to go there?' "
She always answers yes. But she cautions that the point isn't to sway the students, only to teach them a little empathy.
"These kids will become our leaders, maybe even the people who make the laws," she said. "At the very least, they'll certainly be the people who vote on them. Shouldn't they learn something about it all now?"
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12-18-2007, 09:49 PM
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Country: | To really complete the lesson plan, she should of had them pay taxes for welfare and medical programs used by illegal aliens, have a car accident by an illegal then try to get into the emergency room at the local hospital, write a letter to the editor complaning about the problems and prepare a brief after getting sued by the ACLU. Thats a well rounded lesson plan.
How about practical lessons like learn how to haggle buying a new car? Filling out mortgage papers and doing a settlement? How about investments and money saving because the government programs they'll pay for all their lives won't pay them squat when they need it. How about explaining how HMOs and medical insurance work?
Those are real life lessons.
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12-18-2007, 10:01 PM
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Country: | So what was the teachers point?
"Class, today I'm going to show you how cheating the system and screwing over the country you shouldn't even be in is the better, easier, quicker, and more financially sound way to do it."
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12-18-2007, 10:17 PM
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12-18-2007, 10:18 PM
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Country: | When legal immigrants try to come here (like "Yana") there is a waiting list, but after they let in a few million mexicans  Guess what?
So sorry folks, we've already had our quota for this year (and next & the year after...)
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12-18-2007, 11:24 PM
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Country: | Has anybody here tried to get a visa to work in Mexico? I have to find the site, but it intails about 5 years of paperwork and like 4000.00 US dollars. Now whos being stupid, us or them? They can walk across the line and get a house, partially paid for by the gov. or me who was born here, served my country, owns my business,pays taxes and wants a safe home for my kids<if i hopefully have some>. Last year i got Pneumonia, i cant afford health ins. just yet, when i went to the hospital I WAS DENIED BECAUSE I WAS A LEGAL CITIZEN i had a fever of avg.103 to 105. THEY WOULD NOT ADMIT ME ! So now you wonder why people have a little problem with this issue. Breaking the law is still breaking the LAW. aclu CAN KISS MY FU.....AS. Sorry if this offends some people, but when you are almost dead it will tend to make you cranky. 
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12-19-2007, 08:49 AM
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Country: | Gee, teaching kids about doing things illegally. If that was the school where my kid was going, someone would be getting fired, maybe more than just the teacher. There are right and wrong ways to make a point. Teaching students that breaking the law and going around the system to get ahead will bring about adults that lie, cheat and steal.
What an idiot teacher.
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12-19-2007, 08:57 AM
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Country: | And with all this the line dividing whats right and wrong gets more and more hazey.
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12-19-2007, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wilbur1 Has anybody here tried to get a visa to work in Mexico? I have to find the site, but it intails about 5 years of paperwork and like 4000.00 US dollars. Now whos being stupid, us or them? They can walk across the line and get a house, partially paid for by the gov. or me who was born here, served my country, owns my business,pays taxes and wants a safe home for my kids. | Have you seen the latest sob story by Geraldo Rivera? he holds up some poor Mexican (illegally living in America) kid and asks "who wants to separate this poor kid from his daddy?" Almost barfed when I heard that. Hey Geraldo why not just let everyone in? There's about a half billion Chinese that want to come, let's let 'em all in! The rich US taxpayer can afford it!
I think you guys need to end the "anchor baby" deal, its just gives them a loophole. IMO anyways, not that we don't have problems here too.
And guess what happens if you as a US citizen are caught illegally working in Mexico?
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12-19-2007, 10:05 AM
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Country: | Ahhh, freebird, that would be a better lesson. Lets see, one day pretend the class is illeagal in the US, get picked up and then jail. Now do the same in Mexico. Then compare prisons. Where's the ACLU and Amnesty International when you need them?
Wilbur, that is the endgame of all the bleeding heart liberals. Its a case of you can't see the forest cause theres too many trees. Creating programs so that everybody gets equal only makes others less equal. You should hear the stories about Affirmative Action.
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12-19-2007, 10:21 AM
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12-19-2007, 10:47 AM
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Country: | My thing that peeves me is that why are the tax payers giving this up freely? I vote but it seems like the politicians just go with the flow and if they raise a stink they are thrown out. 
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12-19-2007, 10:56 AM
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Country: | Liberal indoctrination in the high school classroom is bad enough. Wait till the students see the far-left propaganda they will be subjected to by their looney college professors. Unfortunately there are lots of "Ward Churchills" in many colleges and universities in this country. It's disgraceful.
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12-19-2007, 01:55 PM
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| Wait till the students see the far-left propaganda they will be subjected to by their looney college professors.
Don't get me started.
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Originally Posted by Njaco Ahhh, freebird, that would be a better lesson. Lets see, one day pretend the class is illeagal in the US, get picked up and then jail. Now do the same in Mexico. Then compare prisons. Where's the ACLU and Amnesty International when you need them? | That might be an interesting lesson... Have the students imgine that they are in some third-world cockroach-infested jail, on trumped up charges.  (naming teddy bears, drawing cartoons, owning a bible, etc.) Then they can try to call their parents to come and pay a bribe to get them out! The young girls might have some "extra punishment" from the perverted jailer....
The lesson ends "Just think kids, someday the American legal system can be just like this too" 
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