peace plan ?

Erich · 11-30-2005, 03:17 PM

maybe this has been presented elsewhere here ? from some chap .....

"I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan."

1) "The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those 'good ole boys', we will never "interfere" again.

2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea, the Middle East, and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.

3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.

4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone.

5) No foreign "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a "F" and it's back home baby.

6) The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.

7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go some place else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them are stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island some place. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH...learn it...or LEAVE...Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?

"The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'you want a piece of me?' "

trackend · 11-30-2005, 03:52 PM

Its one Idea Erich
I think no 6 could be a bit awkward to achieve.
no 4 does that mean the IRA terrorists living in the states will be extradited?
I like most of the others, no10 you have an advantage over other countries as generally your gnashers are better so that's a good start.

Erich · 11-30-2005, 04:05 PM

Track, the info is actually from some hollywood sub type personality.

the Caribou will adapt as they have already proven themselves to do over many years, as I have seen it for myslef in Alaska, but the environmentailist imagery is strong in the NW including the far north and will probably defeat efforts in seecuring a more inward fuel systems for Canada and the US, reliance on the mideast for oil seems to be in effect for quite some time sadly

pbfoot · 11-30-2005, 04:17 PM

your post hits me personally most of all when its last call for alcohol in Canada will i be able to cross bridge to get 2 more hours of cocktails in the US

Pisis · 12-01-2005, 06:23 AM

I know it's from one half a joke and I mostly approve it but some of the ideas are plaoin extreme... Like no asylum...

evangilder · 12-01-2005, 09:47 AM

I actually like that plan.

the lancaster kicks ass · 12-01-2005, 12:45 PM

i can't wait for the apology! i wonder how well that plan would work

102first_hussars · 12-01-2005, 10:43 PM

1) "The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those 'good ole boys', we will never "interfere" again.

Mohamid Farah Adid, Osama Bin Ladin, Taliban, Gay people United and Celine Dion.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 12-02-2005, 02:19 PM

I actually like the plan, and that is what I suggested a long time ago when 911 actually happened. I am tired of the US being the first to help people and then be judged afterwards as not doing eneogh or always doing the wrong things.

Sometimes I think the US would be better off if it adapted a plan like that.

marconi · 12-02-2005, 05:41 PM

That's the price for being the super-power.No one in Europe liked Russian Empire in the middle of 19th century when it was "World's Policeman".

102first_hussars · 12-02-2005, 10:56 PM

Thats different, the Czar was an Absolute Monarchy who claimed to ruled by "Divine Right" they didnt have any guidelines to how they approach things, the Brits may have been Imperialists who introduced Apartheid to South Africa but that couldnt hold a candle to the Russian brutality.

Anyway yes I agree that there are too many bleeding hearts in this continent who would rather see foriegners commit mass genocide on their own people than risk men and women to help those who cannot help themselves, that pisses me off, it pisses me off that many people will bash the U.S for their involvment in Iraq, well guess what Iraqis we handed you Sadam, weve lost over 2000 soldiers give us some f*cking Oil and were even, and for those California Hippies I dont let them bother me because another Earthquake is due in only a year or too.

However the Americans needs to say goodbye to the Saudi's because if the U.S truly wants peace in Isreal they need to tell those prick
anti-semites to get lost

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All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.

You guys have that already except for the 90 day thing.

7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go some place else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

OPEC only goes by OPEC prices, what the U.S. should do is put those green peace pricks on a bus and send them off to Nunavit to fight Global Warming, and then open up the oil reserves, trust me you guys will get bloody rich off that sh*t if you go OPEC.

P38 Pilot · 12-03-2005, 08:34 AM

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2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea, the Middle East, and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.

This part i dont think we should do! We pull out of Korea, we'll have another war on our hands in Asia!

And hell if we are going to pull out of Middle East after all we did! There are still problems to the forming a new democracy for the Iraqi People!

For Germany, I think we have a right to have a couple of bases there. Beside, it was the Germans who started both World Wars. And, alot of soldiers in the Middle East that are wounded come to Germany.

We cant pull out of any of these places unless you want politcal problems and/or war from other countries.

102first_hussars · 12-03-2005, 05:32 PM

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For Germany, I think we have a right to have a couple of bases there. Beside, it was the Germans who started both World Wars.

be careful P-38, and though the Germans had to accept responsibility for starting WW1 they didnt start it, The war wastarted by a Serbian terrorist who assasinated Austro-Hungarian dictator Archiduke Ferdinand which ingnited into a war between Serbia and Austria's empire.

and when I think of what started World War 2, I blame 1. Adolf Hitler (Not The German People) and 2. The Versailles Treaty.

There was many other factors but I believe those are the biggest.

If the U.S. ever decided to pull out of Iraq too early, chances are they can say goodbye to the Empire State Building, Statue Of Liberty ect because their will be alot of pissed off Arabs that will seek "Pilot Training".

plan_D · 12-03-2005, 06:06 PM

It's a reasonable plan. The best part is disallowing asylum, Great Britain should have done that years ago. In fact, we should have never allowed it.

And all these terrorist nations, does that include Ireland? It made me laugh bitterly when the U.S declared a war on terrorism when only a couple of decades earlier Britain had been at the height of it's counter-insurgency against the terrorist IRA. Which were getting aid from high-rollers and, I dare say, officials of the U.S. Behind closed doors, maybe, but still unacceptable. Yet, the U.S government hardly lifted a finger to stop it.

As always, this is not an attack against decent Americans, as I'm sure most Americans on this site would have stopped it instantly. But when I have Americans telling me after the recent London bombings that they're glad that we now know what it feels like to have terrorists attacking us ...it's a tad annoying.

How was the Russian Empire the world's police in the 19th Century? The British Empire was further stretching and had more influence. In fact, since Britain knocked Spain off the top spot in the 16th Century, it was the world power that everyone loved to hate. Come the 19th Century, for various reasons the isolation of the British Empire from the other super-powers had created fear amongst the British leaders because all the other super-powers seemd to be edging towards the destruction of Britain and it's Empire. Because, basically, they didn't like that it was so powerful.

Isolationism from international affairs, aside from trade, is probably the best option. But then everyone will complain that you're not helping. The British Empire did actually grow because of it's self-interests in trade. If the U.S only protected it's trade interests, it'd be hated just as much as if it carried on the way it is.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 12-04-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by P38 Pilot

For Germany, I think we have a right to have a couple of bases there. Beside, it was the Germans who started both World Wars. And, alot of soldiers in the Middle East that are wounded come to Germany.

You really need to learn your history. Germany did not start WW1. As a matter of fact they joined to help there Ally Austria-Hungary that was at war with Serbia and Russia.

As for the right to have bases in Germany. That ended in 1995 with the end of the occupation of Germany. We now pay the Germans to have bases there. Dont take me wrong, I do not wish the Americans to pull out of Germany. I love being stationed in Germany and most US Service Members do also because of the cultural history and travel opportunities that most Americans do not have becaues they are not stationed in Europe.