A Pilot's Perspective On Barack Obama

[freebird]

Originally Posted by renrich

Way to go, FLYBOY, we need every vote especially here in Colorado.

What's going on with your Senate race there Ren, I heard it's not looking good.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Messy1

And I mean Congress as a whole, both Dems and Reps. They need to start getting together on issues and get something done.

This is true.. and this is one reason why I have no real faith in the process. I try to make political decisions based on what I feel to be best for the country at the time.. but I have no faith in the overall system. I vote primarily because so many thought that my right to vote was worth them risking their freedom, health and lives for... For me it is a civic duty anyway.. but even more so given the history for me and my ancestors.

Whether Obama can deliver completely or not... I doubt it.. no politician I have sen in my lifetime has delivered on their campaign promises.. and I don't think Obama will be any different.. but I like what he proposes... and thats all I really have to go on. I know that McCain will deliver more of the same.. at least based on what he says... so ..we will see.

[mkloby]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

This is true.. and this is one reason why I have no real faith in the process. I try to make political decisions based on what I feel to be best for the country at the time.. but I have no faith in the overall system. I vote primarily because so many thought that my right to vote was worth them risking their freedom, health and lives for... For me it is a civic duty anyway.. but even more so given the history for me and my ancestors.

Whether Obama can deliver completely or not... I doubt it.. no politician I have sen in my lifetime has delivered on their campaign promises.. and I don't think Obama will be any different.. but I like what he proposes... and thats all I really have to go on. I know that McCain will deliver more of the same.. at least based on what he says... so ..we will see.

No politician will be able to enter office and completely "deliver" what they say. This should not be expected. They can fight and promote certain things, but the sep of powers makes enacting legislation much more difficult - especially when the executive and legislative branches are divided.

[Njaco]

I agree mostly Bearcat but its my faith only in the system that it should work at some point. I can't see any other system even coming close to what we have, warts and all. But it shouldn't be a career.

About 15 years ago there was a guy down here running and got elected as a freeholder (which is a county politician and technically my boss). I saw what he did first hand and he did deliver. When he ran for re-election, I voted for him. Only politician who kept his total word and we became friends. But the system eventually burned him out. We used to have great discussions.

He was a democrat. And I had no problem voting for him.

[pbfoot]

They haven't called it yet but the minority Gov't here is considering an early election supposedly calling it in early Sept and they have to have at least 36days of campaigning so ened of oct looks like the time

[renrich]

Here in Colorado which is not my home state, thank goodness, the population, through in migration, has become more and more leftist. A lot of that is by way of so called environmentalism which is "no growth" in disguise. Many native Coloradons, of which there are not many, hold traditional values which coincide fairly closely with Republican values. Colorado used to be strongly Republican except in the urban Denver area. What we have here now though is out of staters, many fairly wealthy, who have moved here and would like to shut the gate so no one else can move in and spoil the playground. Of course, being a Texan, I don't think that way. I believe it is selfish to move somewhere and then make it difficult for someone else to join you. There are bumper stickers around here that say, "save an elk, kill a developer." Makes me think about killing, but not developers. Anyway the senate race here looks like Tom Udall, the dimocrat, will win. He is part of a political family which is well known in Colorado and is a died in the wool leftist. I believe that they may be carpetbaggers also. However, the polls indicate that McCain may have an edge here. One reason that McCain may select Romney is because Colorado is a swing state and there are a good many Mormons in the state as well as all though the West.

[FLYBOYJ]

Originally Posted by renrich

Here in Colorado which is not my home state, thank goodness, the population, through in migration, has become more and more leftist. A lot of that is by way of so called environmentalism which is "no growth" in disguise. Many native Coloradons, of which there are not many, hold traditional values which coincide fairly closely with Republican values. Colorado used to be strongly Republican except in the urban Denver area. What we have here now though is out of staters, many fairly wealthy, who have moved here and would like to shut the gate so no one else can move in and spoil the playground. Of course, being a Texan, I don't think that way. I believe it is selfish to move somewhere and then make it difficult for someone else to join you. There are bumper stickers around here that say, "save an elk, kill a developer." Makes me think about killing, but not developers. Anyway the senate race here looks like Tom Udall, the dimocrat, will win. He is part of a political family which is well known in Colorado and is a died in the wool leftist. I believe that they may be carpetbaggers also. However, the polls indicate that McCain may have an edge here. One reason that McCain may select Romney is because Colorado is a swing state and there are a good many Mormons in the state as well as all though the West.

Agree....

[renrich]

Anyone notice that the report yesterday says that GDP growth for the second quarter was revised upward to 3.3 % a substantial increase over the earlier estimate. Where is the recession manufactured by the dimocrats and their lapdog media good buddies?

[Amsel]

I would hope the economy is not as bad as it looks. If the Obamas are voted into office then we lost the Cold War. Since the 1960's we have been attacked and manipulated by the hardcore leftist's nonstop. Our culture is dissolving at a fast rate. By voting in Obama our nation will have a hardcore marxist executive branch. Through constant media brainwashing and manipulation for 40 years the international communists finally have a candidate.

If we do not solve our civilizational crisis -- a disintegrating culture, dying populations, and invasions unresisted -- the children born in 2006 will witness in their lifetimes the death of the West. In our hearts we know what must be done. We must stop the invasion. But do our leaders have the vision and will to do it?
-- State of Emergency

[Bluehawk]

Originally Posted by Glider

I would just point out that the USA voted for the current President whose background was less than ideal and nearly selected Hillary as a candidate, whose only claim to fame seems to be that she was married to a President.

From this side of the pond it is a bit of a mystery to me how the USA chooses its President.

The method is quite a mystery to many of US, too!

And, we don't particularly like it. But, the two political parties are deeply vested in keeping the system as it is... and there really isn't a damn legal thing any of us can do about it.

As for this current theatre which passes for an election, in a way we stumbled upon one of the better contests in my 60+ years of life.

Obama and McCain, and their running mates, are well matched (for an American election) by being polar opposites, for a change.

Either way it turns out, we'll probably be in good shape here this time... the reason being that either winner will have to deal with our constipated greedy self-interested Congress, no matter what their presidential visions might be.

The Democrat leadership, contrary to public propaganda, are mainly concerned about the coming redistricting/gerrymandering that will occur following the 2010 census... at which time, if they have elected enough of their own partisans in the States and White House, America will for the 10 years following (or, until 2020) become basically a Democrat-controlled nation.

For the American electoral system to function democratically as a true Republic, we would have to -

Abolish:
- electoral college
- gerrymandering
- closed primaries
- sovereign immunity

That ain't gonna happen... so, while exporting democracy, we muddle along with our extremely faulty version of it.