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07-09-2008, 10:31 PM
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#46 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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07-12-2008, 02:02 AM
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07-12-2008, 05:54 AM
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#50 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by JugBR  yeah man "great" channel fox news, very fair isnt ? very ethic... | And the liberal press is any different.
You allways talk about Fox news but you are blind to the fact that the liberal press is no different. You only choose to talk about Fox because it soots your beliefs and needs.
Give it up, and take a more impartial look at the news services and you will see they are no different.
If you think about it, it is actually pretty pathetic because you are guilty of the same thing you accuse Fox news of. Think about it!
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07-12-2008, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet And the liberal press is any different.
You allways talk about Fox news but you are blind to the fact that the liberal press is no different. You only choose to talk about Fox because it soots your beliefs and needs.
Give it up, and take a more impartial look at the news services and you will see they are no different.
If you think about it, it is actually pretty pathetic because you are guilty of the same thing you accuse Fox news of. Think about it! | do you know what means "liberal" ? think about it !
btw, people who have strong arguments dont need to call others pathetic, i think is not ethic expose these kind of records, do you have any problem with that ? disagree ?
when the "liberal" media makes their cheats youll see whats my opinion about, or not.
but the cheater now was fox news, and it was very dirty, let me say, in a election year. its my opinion, you can take it, you can disagree with that or just dont say nothing.
you show respect to be respected, i never fault of respect with you, if you have some parents or friends working in fox news, im so sorry, dont think its personal its just a viewer opinion.
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07-12-2008, 08:43 AM
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And like Daniel i dislike the casual refrence to his parents as a point to use against him that in itself has no bearing what so ever to his current situation and basically you are implying that he is a bastard come on mate thats not fair.
It may be that i am wrong but at the end of the day remember nearly all politicians are back stabbing P$%#&'s that's how they got to the top.
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07-12-2008, 08:50 AM
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#53 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by JugBR do you know what means "liberal" ? think about it ! | Of course I know what liberal means. It is a word in my native language. You think about it! Quote: |
Originally Posted by JugBR btw, people who have strong arguments dont need to call others pathetic, | I did not call you pathetic. I said that in general, doing this is pathetic. Do not put words in my mouth! Quote: |
Originally Posted by JugBR i think is not ethic expose these kind of records, do you have any problem with that ? disagree ? | Again you are only pointing out what one side does. You are blind to what the other side does.
I watch American TV on a daily basis, both sides the same thing to each other. You however never talk about the other side doing it. Only the ones that talk **** about Obama.
Why? Because it suits your purpose, your arguement. You are easy to forget that the other side does it as well.
I think you need a better understanding of US politics. Quote: |
Originally Posted by JugBR when the "liberal" media makes their cheats youll see whats my opinion about, or not. | I am waiting to see it. I better not hold my breath waiting either. Quote: |
Originally Posted by JugBR but the cheater now was fox news, and it was very dirty, let me say, in a election year. its my opinion, you can take it, you can disagree with that or just dont say nothing. | Lets see you list some dirty **** by other news agencies against McCain. I would like you to list them and say they are wrong. I am sure you wont do that though. You are blind to them... Quote: |
Originally Posted by JugBR you show respect to be respected, i never fault of respect with you, if you have some parents or friends working in fox news, im so sorry, dont think its personal its just a viewer opinion.
regards | No I am just sick and tired of people that wont even admit that it is a two way street.
Also I never disrespected you. Do not ever put words in my mouth.
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07-12-2008, 09:15 AM
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#54 | | Senior Member
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but im talking about the historical meaning. do you know ? the liberal thinkers ? adan smith ? | |
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07-12-2008, 09:20 AM
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#55 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by JugBR its funny, "liberal" is a word of my native language too.
but im talking about the historical meaning. do you know ? the liberal thinkers ? adan smith ? | That is not the meaning of Liberal that I am using. I am talking about the political sense of liberal as it is used in the United States.
I can see there is no use in discussing this with your though. You obviously know more about my own countries politics than I do...
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07-12-2008, 09:25 AM
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Give me an example of when a conservative group had such a disrespect of the government by disrupting and shouting down the Pres, VP, or any other member of the government as much as "liberals" do.
There aren't any.
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07-12-2008, 01:26 PM
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Doesn't it embarrass American citizens that the run-up to presidency quite often ends up in something similar as a pub brawl?
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07-12-2008, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JugBR
when the "liberal" media makes their cheats youll see whats my opinion about, or not.
but the cheater now was fox news, and it was very dirty, let me say, in a election year. its my opinion, you can take it, you can disagree with that or just dont say nothing. Is Jesse Jackson running for President? That helped Obama - not hurt him.
New York Times insinuating John McCain was having an affair with no proof? Any indignation on your part over that? or bringing up Mitt Romney as a Mormon every time his name was mentioned? Different from JFK situation?
Have you ever seen NBC, MSNBC, CNN ever bring on a William Buckley or George Will or even Laura Ingram on to debate Keith Olberman, or Wolf Blitzer on any point? Even Ann Coulter?
Have you seen CNN or MSNBC or NBC take a University to task for shouting down Border Minutemen or Ann Coulter? But they cheerfully uphold the 'free speech' of a New York Times to out US Intelligence operatives?
When was the last time someone accused Bush of lying to the American Public about WMD in Iraq and at the same time cite 'new info' from the same CIA Chief (Tenant) that Clinton had? Who has ever cited one iota of fact that Bush had that proved Hussein did not have WMD? The same WMD that Clinton attacked in 1999? (without Congressional approval)?
you show respect to be respected, i never fault of respect with you, if you have some parents or friends working in fox news, im so sorry, dont think its personal its just a viewer opinion.
regards | Your opinion is welcome, but perhaps you might want to judge Fox, and its interview style AND substance, by the caliber of both the guests and the moderators in comparison with the other networks... including BBC.
Give me your ranking of each of the National US and/or global news markest in the context of a.) framing and issue, and b.) inviting reasoned debate from both sides of a political question.
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07-12-2008, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet That is not the meaning of Liberal that I am using. I am talking about the political sense of liberal as it is used in the United States.
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07-12-2008, 04:36 PM
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#60 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Danielmellbin Hey - you can always take comfort in the fact that you don't live in my country - Liberals are the right wing here | Same here in Germany. Me and my wife allways argue about what is right and what is left.
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