 | A Pilot's Perspective On Barack Obama| Politics Discuss A Pilot's Perspective On Barack Obama in the Current forums; Originally Posted by skellz
PEOPLE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD THE STORY ABOUT THE WOLF HIDING IN ... |
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07-07-2008, 11:48 AM
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#31 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by skellz  PEOPLE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD THE STORY ABOUT THE WOLF HIDING IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING SO HE CAN DESTROY THEM FROM WITH-IN ? THE HAND WRITING IS ON THE WALL, DO YOU NOT HAVE EYES TO SEE IT ?
I havent seen this kind of paranoia since bush was elected.
1. Psychiatry. a mental disorder characterized by systematized delusions and the projection of personal conflicts, which are ascribed to the supposed hostility of others, sometimes progressing to disturbances of consciousness and aggressive acts believed to be performed in self-defense or as a mission.
2. baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others | Evidently you cannot give any perspective on your opinions, discuss this with a base of knowledge or experience or provide real word examples of your side - in other words you are an idiot and too stupid to be on this forum!
BTW - what size Che shirt do you wear?
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07-07-2008, 12:06 PM
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#32 | | Der Crewchief
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07-07-2008, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Ah man Joe, you could have atleast let him respond to my PM! | I don't want you loosing points off your IQ by reading anything from that dimwit!!! 
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07-07-2008, 12:11 PM
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07-07-2008, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Thanks for looking out for me! | My pleasure!
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07-08-2008, 06:00 AM
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PEOPLE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD THE STORY ABOUT THE WOLF HIDING IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING SO HE CAN DESTROY THEM FROM WITH-IN ? THE HAND WRITING IS ON THE WALL, DO YOU NOT HAVE EYES TO SEE IT ?
| Yes, and he's called Barack Hussein Olabama. 
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07-08-2008, 09:23 AM
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07-09-2008, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ToughOmbre Please pardon the CAPS.....
DO I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT?
HIS FATHER WAS A BLACK AFRICAN MUSLIM FROM KENYA.
WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS AFRICAN FAMILY.
HIS MOTHER WAS A WHITE AMERICAN ATHEIST FROM KANSAS.
WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS AMERICAN FAMILY?
HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER WHEN HE WAS ONLY TWO YEARS OLD AND WENT BACK TO AFRICA BY WAY OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY. HOW? WAS HIS FATHER WEALTHY?
HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MUSLIM AND THEN MOVED TO JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS ENROLLED IN A MUSLIM SCHOOL.
WHEN HE REACHED HIGH SCHOOL AGE HIS MOTHER SENT HIM TO HAWAII TO BE WITH HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS AND HE WAS PUT INTO AN EXPENSIVE PRIVATE SCHOOL. HE LATER WENT TO HARVARD UNIVERSITY. HOW? WERE HIS GRANDPARENTS RICH?
HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION HOUSE OBTAINED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUNDRAISER. HOW?
HE 'WORKED' AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO. HE HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE JOB OR RECEIVED A PAY CHECK THAT WAS NOT GOVERNMENT-FUNDED AND/OR TAYPAYER SUPPORTED.
THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POSITION, NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES; ON-THE-JOB TRAINING WON'T CUT IT.
HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE.
HE IS PROUD OF HIS 'AFRICAN HERITAGE' (A FATHER WHO GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER).
WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS 'WHITE HERITAGE'? (A MOTHER WHO FLAUNTED CONVENTION AND DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD).
SOME MIGHT THINK THERE WAS NOT MUCH TO BE PROUD OF EITHER WAY.
HE BELONGS, AND HAS BELONGED FOR OVER 20 YEARS, TO AN 'AFRO-CENTRIC' CHURCH IN CHICAGO THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLD'S PERCEIVED FAULTS. (INCLUDING CREATING THE AIDs VIRUS IN ORDER TO INFLICT IT ON AFRICANS).
HE REPEATEDLY WHITEWASHES THE PASTOR, HIS CHURCH AND THE MEMBERS WHO CHEERED AFTER HEARING VITRIOLIC TIRADES AGAINST AMERICA.
HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN
YEAH RIGHT ! !
DURING HIS VERY BRIEF TIME IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE HE HAS MANAGED TO AMASS THE NUMBER ONE ULTRA LIBERAL VOTING RECORD OUT OF THE ONE HUNDRED MEMBERS.
HE HAS VOTED CONSISTENTLY FOR BIGGER GOVERNMENT AND HIGHER TAXES. HE HAS VOTED FOR BIG ENTITLEMENTS AND LEGISLATION THAT WOULD SEVERELY CURTAIL AMERICA'S ABILITY TO FIGHT TERRORISM AND TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS AND OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS AROUND THE WORLD.
BUT, HE IS A GOOD ORATOR. ISN'T THAT A COMFORT?
YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW WELL HE COULD UNITE THE COUNTRY.
I THINK THE TRUTH IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEW CHIEF PILOT. HE HAS NEVER FLOWN AN AIRPLANE, IN FACT HE HAS NEVER EVEN SAT IN THE COCKPIT, BUT HE SAYS HE HAS RIDDEN ON PLANES BEFORE. WE ARE SURE HE WILL GUIDE US SAFELY THROUGH THE STORMS WE MAY ENCOUNTER ON THIS FLIGHT.
PEOPLE WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD THE STORY ABOUT THE WOLF HIDING IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING SO HE CAN DESTROY THEM FROM WITH-IN ? THE HAND WRITING IS ON THE WALL, DO YOU NOT HAVE EYES TO SEE IT ?
THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE YOU VOTE FOR THIS GUY!
TO | Good Lord... Its a communist mullah coming to give the US a koran scriptured enema...
Sorry - No seriously - why must it all be so "doomsdayhostile"? To my eye there is a very irrational fear of the unknown and the enemy coming from within. A really good book on this matter is called "Gunfighter Nation" by Richard Slotkin (very heavy reading though  ). Skellz - inspite of his lack of etiquet - made some valid observations. So now I ask you: Why is the political climate so filled with hate in the US? Did 9/11 start it or was it well underway before that?
I look forward to any explanations/opnions you might have. What I believe at the moment is that politics in the US have always been slightly "dirtier" than the rest of the democratic world. Mainly due to the fact that the US is a more multicultural and divided nation than most others. But in my opinion the attacks on 9/11 tipped the scales from: opinions on right and wrong - over to facts on right and wrong. "you are either with us or against us"
Dealing in these sorts of absolutes are dangerous. Not only in foreign politics for which this line was intended.
My point which has been a bit muddled so far is:
What would have been frased:
My opponents view on fighting terror and running the finances in this country is wrong because.... blah blaha bala
Has become either:
1.) My opponent hates america and the flag and the troops.... blah blah blah...
2.) My opponent is a warmongerer who will let your children die for personal benefit... blah blah...
It cannot be healthy for your country to have this type of "debate" - it leaves almost no room for changing minds which is one of the primary benefits we have over totalitarian systems. What I have seen of Obama - and what he IMO earns alot of success on - is that he hasn't used much of the "left and right" or "us and them" rhetoric so far. And people like that. The reason he hasn't is probably due to his history which is used as slander in the original post on this thread - but really it is a positive history: Like many many people he comes from a family where mom and dad didn't stay together. His dad went back to Africa when he was very young
His mother remarried and he moved to Indonesia with her and her new husband. (Try not watching too much fox - it WANS'T a muslim school)
When it was time for highschool he moved to his grandparents in the US. (probably to get a better education that what is obtained in Indonesia)
His family either had alot of money or he got some topgrades since he got into Harvard. But inspite of this he worked as a civil rights activist (not all productiveness is measured in the green). Having seen the problems of the world from outside the view of a combat soldier might help preserve more peace?
His former church is a very afro-centric who's focus on racial problems has been too extreme - and as such he has left it (all the remarks mentioned are grossly taken out of context). But heck I'd rather listen to that preacher than to Pat Buchanan....
He got into state politics and has had a very leftleaning political career.
This would be fairer judgement of his life so far. One final point: Skellz might have been out of line but I find remarks such as "A FATHER WHO GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER" quite distastefull. | |
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07-09-2008, 06:46 PM
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#40 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Ya know, when Obama first came on the scene I was pretty impressed. A very articulate speaker with some new fresh Ideas. Although I recognized his politically liberal voting record in the US senate I was willing to give him a listen. As time went on I was even considering voting for him, but he turned out to be his own worse enemy. During his last days of dueling with Hillabitch I heard and seen some pretty stupid sh!t from him, the most memorable was the way he was pandering to the Pennsylvania gun lobby, what a joke. I was willing to put that aside until I heard about his reaction to McCain's call for off shore oil exploration. Mr. Obama, I thought your response would be a bit more tactful but your inexperience and liberal agenda really showed it's ugly head. What were you thinking, especially when the average price of gas is now well over $4.00 a gallon - are you that f*#king stupid???? YES!
I have also come across a political add about your ideas for national defense - no smear, no misquoted lines, your own words and I could tell you I got a cold chill.... YouTube - IN 52 SECS WHY BARACK OBAMA WON'T WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION
Have you not learned anything from when Reagan was president? Have you not learned that you do not negotiate through weakness but through strength??? You talk about helping out veterans, but how about helping our soldiers and giving them the tools necessary to be the top fighting force on this planet? And in the clip your criticism of Star Was was just ridiculous. I seen some of this technology work, and it does work Mr. Obama, but your too stupid, uneducated or liberal to realize that. I would of hated to see you in Edison's workshop, you would of probably convinced him to change careers!!!!
One thing about this clip, it did bring back memories of my younger years. Listening to your own words reminded me of Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, and McGovern. Haven't you learned from the mistakes of these people? I recognize that McCain might be as incompetent as you and might bring some other issues to the table but right now I looking at the lesser of two evils and you just convinced me who and what that is!
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07-09-2008, 07:12 PM
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Why is the political climate so filled with hate in the US?
| Daniel, thats the sound of the Democrats eating themselves up. Much of that hate was during the primaries when Clintonites went against Olabamanites and vice-versa. The Republicans have McCain which while some disgaree with his "hand-across-the-aisle" politics, its still not as vicious as the Dems. They brought out the race card, the feminist angle, etc. And to truly get vicious and nasty, look no further than Move-On.Org or Code Pink - left-wing radicals that the Republicans cannot even come close to the sleeze they vomit forth.
They're eating themselves up.
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07-09-2008, 07:45 PM
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And remember that the mainstream media in America stirs the hate against Republicans/conservatives because the media is at least 75% left leaning and is determined to get a Democrat into the White House.
One needs to look no farther than Keith Olbermann on MSNBC to see hate directed at the president and his party (and anyone who happens to be a conservative) every single night.
Daniel, my question to you is.... What is so "doomsdayhostile" about "A Pilot's Perspective On Barack Obama"?
BTW, skellz made NO valid observations!
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07-09-2008, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot Does anyone recall some of the hackles raised when a Roman Catholic was a Presidential candidate . JFK was the only US President that was Catholic | Hackles? I remember some comments, again from the media, but that was about it....
Where I was from he was worshiped, Catholic and all.
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