Political Cartoon of the week

pbfoot · 12-03-2006, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt308

I've never agreed with those who wish to blame Canada for our porous borders. Kinda like claiming that our hockey defense sucks because the other guy's is so good. I'm all for cleaning our own house before demanding that others clean theirs.

that is Fox News that started that crap for a long period of time after 9/11 they were stating that the hijackers entered through Canada although it was shown that not one had

Matt308 · 12-03-2006, 12:31 PM

Foxnews? I doubt it. I think it was a common misconception based on some facts. Recall the lovely gentlemen that was caught in Blaine, Washington, with explosives in his trunk and an M-O to blow up the LA Airport. He was linked to radical Islam. And I recall that the one or more of those Aholes that set the bomb off in the garage level of the NY bldg were also traced back through Canada. However, I think that folks made a leap of faith that all therefore must have come from Canada. What is wrong with that logic is since when did Canada become responsible for US border entry. I think there is a lot of work that both countries need to do and the lesson ought to be that we can't both do it solo.

Vassili Zaitzev · 12-05-2006, 07:32 AM

funny cartoons

Matt308 · 12-05-2006, 03:57 PM

what cartoons?

pbfoot · 12-05-2006, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt308

Foxnews? I doubt it. I think it was a common misconception based on some facts. Recall the lovely gentlemen that was caught in Blaine, Washington, with explosives in his trunk and an M-O to blow up the LA Airport. He was linked to radical Islam. And I recall that the one or more of those Aholes that set the bomb off in the garage level of the NY bldg were also traced back through Canada. However, I think that folks made a leap of faith that all therefore must have come from Canada. What is wrong with that logic is since when did Canada become responsible for US border entry. I think there is a lot of work that both countries need to do and the lesson ought to be that we can't both do it solo.

can't find any reference for a Canadian connnection in the parking garage bombing but Ressam and some other guy in a possible plot in NYC subway but I could be wrong

Matt308 · 12-05-2006, 04:27 PM

Maybe I have my facts wrong Pb. I think we both would agree with my conclusion that there is much more the US can do to protect its border before its starts accusing others of not protecting US borders. Seems assbackwards to me.

syscom3 · 12-05-2006, 04:49 PM

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What is wrong with that logic is since when did Canada become responsible for US border entry. I think there is a lot of work that both countries need to do and the lesson ought to be that we can't both do it solo.

If Canada wants a fairly open border with the US, then Canada has to keep out undesirables. And since both of our countries are so similar, whats undesireable for the US is undesirable for Canada 99.9999% of the time.

Fair and simple.

pbfoot · 12-05-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by syscom3

If Canada wants a fairly open border with the US, then Canada has to keep out undesirables. And since both of our countries are so similar, whats undesireable for the US is undesirable for Canada 99.9999% of the time.

Fair and simple.

It is an impossible task to guarantee anyones frontiers against a small group of capable intruders let alone the Canada /US border. When I was a 19year old the drinking age in New York State was 18 and ours was 21 we used cross over in motorboats to get our 12 Bud mind you security now is much more visible but far from impregnable

Emac44 · 12-12-2006, 05:31 PM

hmmmm there seems to be problems of passport control via Canadian US border from what I am reading in your posts. I am going to post how Australians deal with illegal immigrants that have tried to come into Australian Territory. For some years we had problems with what was known as boat people. It began just after post Vietnam War era. With Vietnamese refugees coming down to Australia via South China Seas and continued for about 6 years. Most were excepted at this time as Australia was involved in the Veitnam War and I suppose we felt obligated to except these people. But when governments changed in Australia the attitude changed and the Australian Government began turning back or impounding boats and detaining said refugees and began processing said refugees under UN mandates on the rights of refugees and status. This processing has been ongoing right up until the present date. As for the current situation over last 5 years or more Australian Government has had to deal with other so called refugees being smuggled into Australian Territory by what is known as People Smugglers. whom charge the refugees in US dollars or gold per person etc. There is quiet a business being conducted via Indonesia in this trade of human beings trying to gain illegal entry into Australia. And as most of these so called refugees come from the Middle East or Afghanistan region of the world. And not one of these refugees have identity papers or passports to speak off and claim political refugee status and yet they are wealthy enough to pay passage to illegal people smugglers etc. When they are caught as most are caught they are dealt with accordingly and placed in detention centres based around various parts of Australia and their status is determined under UN Refugee Status etc. This may take some time or over an indefinite period depending on what has to be done under the current areas dealing in the UN mandate on the rights on refugees and is a very long and drawn out process. Unfortunately we do have a few bleeding hearts who think we should just let them in and become automatically Australian citizens. One for example is the author Thomas Corneilly. He is most certainly entitled to his opinion but in my opinion the security of the nation is more important then his lack of foresight and bleeding hearted attitudes. As there are refugee camps in Thailand were actual refugees who have struggled and waited patiently and legally are applying to enter Australia under legal processes and not trying to enter Australia via the back door etc. Funny thing is Australia has been condemned politically not just by our Asian neighbours who incidently don't want these refugee boat people either but countries as far away as Norway which came about via the Tampa incident just prior to 9/11. We have a very tough immigration policy in Australia and we just do not except just any one just suddenly presenting themselves on our door step claiming to be a victim etc or a refugee etc. To my way of thinking it has discourage the infiltration or terrorists posing as so called refugees as well into Australia. Do not get me wrong I do feel sympathy for refugees in the most parts but the security of my country comes first and foremost and I support my Government on its stance on handling illegal immigration to this country.

syscom3 · 12-14-2006, 11:19 PM

Ive been busy with my new thread "65 years ago in the pacific", and as a result, Ive been tardy in my usual thought provoking political cartoons.

Vassili Zaitzev · 12-19-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt308

what cartoons?

Sorry, I meant funny political statements.

P38 Pilot · 12-20-2006, 07:45 PM

I like the one about Annan and Hamas Militia. Shows you the truth...

Emac44 · 12-21-2006, 09:53 AM

Sys i like the cartoon about David Dukes. funny thing about racism it never does have to be showing common sense. I suppose ignorance and racism are bedfellows to the extreme. And dukes going to Iran to me it smacks of treason to even consider turning up in Iran like he has for the conference. Maybe its just me but i was taught loyalty to ones country comes first and foremost

Matt308 · 12-21-2006, 01:19 PM

Is he still a politician? I thought that he was out of any Congressional seat. Scary that he has made it as far as he has. Shows you how upset folks have become regarding the porous south border.

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mkloby · 12-24-2006, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt308

Is he still a politician? I thought that he was out of any Congressional seat. Scary that he has made it as far as he has. Shows you how upset folks have become regarding the porous south border.

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Duke was on some show on fox last week I believe - can't remember which one. He got hammered. Seems he has apparently toned down much of his rhetoric. He also claimed not to be anti-Catholic, yet was at the helm of the KKK which is a very anti-Catholic organization. Seems he's trying to push his image as a kinder, gentler man of hate.