The Province of Québec wants... An Army ?!?

[Nonskimmer]

Jack Layton? Christ, we might as well just fly the hammer and sickle, and start calling each other "comrade".

[Maestro]

No, what I meant was that if the Conservative Party had a leader as "expressive" as Jack Layton, they would already hold a majority at the parliment.

Stephen Harper looks like a typical redneck... He looks very cold, unlike Layton.

But you're right on a point, the NPD is a communist party.

[Nonskimmer]

Pretty much. The New Democrats make the Liberals look right-wing by comparison. I too tend to have more conservative views, but I'm not too sure about Stephen Harper. This is the man who was willing to go to bed with the Bloc, just in order to topple Martin's minority government. He also has a typically western view of eastern Canada. He sees us as a bunch of lazy hicks.
I hope he remembered to tell that to General Hillier, the Chief of the Defence Staff. He's a Newfoundlander.
He hasn't been in the post long, but he's already taken some kind of real action with respect to the focus of the Forces. At least he's realistic about it, unlike his predecessor. The last CDS was just a Chrétien yes man, who didn't do much of anything.

[FLYBOYJ]

I wish we had an NDP here in the states - Jane Fonda, Jessie Jackson, Barbara Boxer, etc. would all have a place to go, Bruce Springsteen could entertain them!

[plan_D]

I would like to point out that I said the British should have deported or destroyed the French in Canada, not just destroy.

[102first_hussars]

Originally Posted by Maestro

I'm also a strong supporter of the conservative party and you're right about making some friends in Québec. Unfortunately, there is two major problems :

1 - Childrens from Québec get brainwashed in public schools so all they want is a job with an Union and separate from the rest of Canada. So they always vote for the Bloc.

2 - Unfortunaltely, the actual Conservative leader got a typical Redneck look. Take the same party but replace Stephen Harper by a guy like Jack Layton and the Conservators would hold a majority at the parliment.

Jack Layton is a a *****, Steven Harper wont take no Bullsh*t thats why I like him, and the reason the liberals have been getting away with things before the sponsership program is because knowbody would pound theyre fist on the table and say NO! thats why The Liberals will not get away with this Scandal is because Steve will keep reminding the public what crooks the Liberals are.

[102first_hussars]

Originally Posted by Nonskimmer

Pretty much. The New Democrats make the Liberals look right-wing by comparison. I too tend to have more conservative views, but I'm not too sure about Stephen Harper. This is the man who was willing to go to bed with the Bloc, just in order to topple Martin's minority government. He also has a typically western view of eastern Canada. He sees us as a bunch of lazy hicks.
I hope he remembered to tell that to General Hillier, the Chief of the Defence Staff. He's a Newfoundlander.
He hasn't been in the post long, but he's already taken some kind of real action with respect to the focus of the Forces. At least he's realistic about it, unlike his predecessor. The last CDS was just a Chrétien yes man, who didn't do much of anything.

First off Jack Layton is a *****, Paul Martin is a fat headed Liar, and Steve Harper is the only way to go, and know Steve and the people of Alberta dont see Eastern Canada as a bunch of lazy hicks its the other way around, We dont hate all eastern canada, we just hate Ontario if you can guess reasonable reasons why, your probably right.

If Trudeau were still prime minister, we wouldn't be putting up with one-quarter of this Bloc bullshit.

One question, why is it that easterners just looove Trudeau? Was it cause of his handling of the October crisis? I found his handling quite necessary,
Or was it because he brought 20 years of economical hardships to Alberta
because of his National Energy Policy? that resession sunk soo far that it made The Great Depression look like The Kolondike Days. It was because of the NEP Albertas Premeir at the time Peter Lougheed had to shut down the oil refinery's to get that prick Trudeau's attention.
my mother and I had to live in a 1 bedroom apartment in the most poverty stricken area of the city for 16 years.

And for those who say Steve Harper is going to bed with the French that is BS , If you hate The Liberals then get with the Program, if we are to topple Sadam excuse me topple Paul Martin we need to pick a side, and I aint going with Cinderella I mean Jack Layton.


And can you trust a politician who bares a resemblance to this guy?

[Nonskimmer]

- Harper does think eastern Canadians are lazy. He came right out and said so back when he led the old Alliance Party.

- He was teaming up with Giles Duceppe of the Bloc Québécois only months ago. Call it whatever the f*ck you want to then.

- Not all easterners loved Trudeau. Not by a long shot. I admired his stance on Québec, like many people did, but he was still a Grit through and through. I'm aware of his mishandling of the economy, and as a Forces member, I can hardly agree with his near total neglect of the military. He's also the PM who started us down this pussified path we seem to be stuck on. As for what he did to Alberta, I personally don't really give a sh*t. Why would I? I'm in the east. We've got our own problems.

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Ah I love to see that other countries have really stupid polotics like here in Germany!

[Nonskimmer]

The Liberal government is the furthest thing from perfection, and we've been Liberal way too long. Since '93. I'm a Liberal basher as much as the next conservative, but we could do far worse (i.e. NDP or worse yet the Bloc), and teaming up with the separatists just to oust Paul Martin's crew is going a bit far. I don't give a sh*t that it would work, the last ones you want to owe any favours to are the Bloc Québécois. Screw that!

Despite the fact that he's made his opinion of Atlantic Canada known to the public in the past, I'd actually still prefer to give Harper a go at it. Overall, I think he'd do right enough by the country. He needs to take an iron fist with the Bloc though. He's a Conservative, and I do like his approach to the politics most of the time. He's usually low on the bullshit, and I like that. He sure as hell couldn't screw things up any worse than Chrétien did.

[pbfoot]

personally i go for the rhinocerous party they were gonna pay off national debt with visa. chang the name canada to florida so the nice weather would come here. repeal law of gravity. legalizing pot then pans .building taller schools for higher education

[Nonskimmer]

Sounds a lot like the NDP.

[pbfoot]

heres couple more of their platform it was areal party
adopting the British system of driving on the left; this was to be gradually phased in over five years with large trucks first, then buses, eventually including small cars and bicycles last,
as an energy-saving idea, putting larger wheels on the back of all cars so that they will always be going downhill

[102first_hussars]

Steven Harper did not say that, Stockwell Day said that and he was voted

out of the party because of it and Steve was the replacement after Joe

Clark.

Alberta, Albertans went mostly for the NDP in the 2000 election because

Stock was such an *******, And no offence but you should give a F*ck

because if Alberta suffers like that again I tell you which Provinces will be

directly effected by it, PEI, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia and Quebec, Where do you think the majority of the equaliztion payments are coming from our g*damm oil money, were a one shot economy so you should care cuz I promise you personally it will effect you if another F*cked Up NEP is passed.

and yes Trudeau did screw things up way more than Chretien did, lets The War On Poverty act that was a couple billion Dollars down the drain, Um screwed up Saskatchewans Canola industry when he boycotted Russia, Um overspending on Social Programs, Budget cuts on everything so he could spend more on social programs, um Sourd relations with the Reagan Administration, and the First Nations due to The Charlletown Conference And um basically shat on Lestor Pearsons legacy which I saw as the Ultimate F*ck You, Oh and lets not forget his leniant handling on the spanish fishing boats infringment on our Cod fishing, Say isnt Nova Scotia a big Cod processing province?

And this isnt an attack on you personally NS its more on Eastern veiw of the west and the French Canadians, **** this country is so divided that we were having to shut down oil production and francaphone extremist carbombing Montreal all just to be heard. Ontario thinks they are the only people in this country and the Liberals are the only party around. This I do know, I lived in Kingston, Ontario for 4 years and those people are just how I describe them.

[Nonskimmer]

Yes, I know Stockwell Day said that. And yes, he was a first-rate no mind. Stephen Harper doesn't much care for the east either and makes no bones about it, but that doesn't mean that I necessarily think he'd make a bad prime minister. When push came to shove I think he'd be fair enough all around. Relatively speaking, he's a no bullshit kind of guy and you know what? Maritimers are a bit mouthier than we ought to be at times. I'll be the first to admit it.
We complain about everything. It wouldn't matter how good things were, we'd still bitch about the government and the west. I think Harper just wanted to put us in our place because he got sick of all the bitching and whining from out east. I don't hate the man or anything because of his opinion. Stockwell Day on the other hand is just an *******. 'Nuff said.

Originally Posted by 102first_hussars

And no offence but you should give a F*ck

because if Alberta suffers like that again I tell you which Provinces will be

directly effected by it, PEI, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia and Quebec.

I fully realize that, and if I was an Albertan or from BC or Ontario I wouldn't be too thrilled about having to support the Atlantic provinces either. That makes perfect sense to me. Alberta especially, because you guys have managed to make yourselves the wealthiest, most successful province of all, and it's because of good provincial leadership. The rest of us should look to that example. Equalization is another Liberal short-sighted measure with potential long-term consequences that just further divides the provinces.

When I said I didn't give a sh*t about what was happening in Alberta, I was talking mostly about what happened during Trudeau's time. Seriously, I couldn't care less about it. Sorry.

Chrétien was an absolute f*ck-up from day one, and he ran the country like a mafia don. Trudeau made a big enough mess of his own for sure, but ol' Jean just about finished us off. What I did admire about Trudeau was his balls. They were huge. Love him or hate him, the man stood up for what he believed, and he had no time whatsoever for the PQ. None. Unfortunately, a lot of his beliefs didn't seem to make much sense to the rest of us.
Yep. There's no denying he made a damn mess. You're right about that. We've never recovered from it either, and we're still barrelling down the road he paved.