The Province of Québec wants... An Army ?!?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 11-07-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nonskimmer

Great. Our very own border war right here.

Boys, are we really that freakin' petty? Can we just stop the bullsh*t please? Come on now, let's just move on! Enough!

Yes this is getting very old. I already booted one person today, lets get back on track here guys.

Nonskimmer · 11-07-2005, 05:03 PM

Hey, nice new sig.

FLYBOYJ · 11-07-2005, 05:07 PM

I agree with that - the guy obviously will never get over what happened, to try him as a war criminal is just adding salt to the wound....

And my comment as a sub par leader applies to anyone in command in the "Blue Helmet Brigade." Would you have a problem taking orders from a guy with little or no combat experience? I don't care if he's American, Canadian, or from Bangladesh, it's pretty scary!!!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 11-07-2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nonskimmer

Hey, nice new sig.

Thanks it was time for a change. :P

102first_hussars · 11-07-2005, 08:03 PM

I must be livin in the dark but what the hell did Romeo do exactly?

Nonskimmer · 11-07-2005, 08:13 PM

Check out the link pbfoot posted on the previous page. It gives the short version.

102first_hussars · 11-07-2005, 10:19 PM

Ok I Found A more Detailed Site Of which I am going to Cut'n Paste
Then we can speculate

Lieutenant-General The Honourable Roméo A. Dallaire, OC, CMM, GOQ, CSM, CD, B.Sc, LL.D (born June 25, 1946, in Denekamp, The Netherlands) is a Canadian senator, humanitarian, author and retired general. Dallaire is widely known for having served as Force Commander of UNAMIR, the ill-fated United Nations peacekeeping force in Rwanda between 1993 and 1994, and trying to stop a war of genocide that was being waged by Hutu extremists against Tutsis and Hutu moderates.

In late 1993 Dallaire was assigned the position of Force Commander of UNAMIR. Rwanda had just endured several years of bloody civil war which had been concluded with the Arusha Accords, and UNAMIR's mandate was to supervise the peaceful transfer of power to the new Rwandan government.

On the night of 6-7 April, 1994, an airplane carrying Rwandan President Juvénal Habyarimana was shot down over Kigali Airport. Following the airplane crash, Hutu extremists, with help from the Rwandan government, started executing Tutsis and Hutu moderates as well as the elected officials of the new government. This was the starting point of the Rwandan genocide. Dallaire ordered ten Belgian soldiers (whom he considered his best men) to protect the new prime minister, Agathe Uwilingiyimana. The soldiers were intercepted by Hutu extremists and taken hostage, after which Madame Agathe and her husband were killed. Later that day, the Belgian soldiers were found brutally murdered. Belgium was outraged that Dallaire had put its soldiers in such danger, and promptly withdrew its forces.

Seeing the situation in Rwanda deteriorating rapidly, Dallaire pleaded for logistical support and reinforcements of 2,000 soldiers for UNAMIR. The UN Security Council refused, several journalists laying blame on a gun shy US President Bill Clinton's administration which refused to provide requested material aid after the failed US efforts in Mogadishu, Somalia. The Security Council further voted to reduce UNAMIR down to 260 men.

Following the Belgian withdrawal, Dallaire consolidated his contingent of Ghanaian, Tunisian, and Bangladeshi soldiers in urban areas and focused on providing areas of 'safe control'. His actions are credited with directly saving the lives of 20,000 Tutsis. There is speculation that Dallaire's forces deliberately sabotaged equipment to slow their UN-mandated withdrawal from the combat zone.

As the massacre progressed, the UN Security Council backtracked on its position and voted to establish UNAMIR II with a strength of 5,500 men. Several French and UNAMIR II contingents started arriving in Rwanda in June 1994.

The genocide, now known to have been brutally and efficiently organized months before, lasted for 100 days, leading to some 936,000 deaths, and over two million people being displaced internally or in neighbouring countries. The genocide ended when Tutsi RPF gained control of Rwanda on July 18, 1994, although retribution continued on a smaller scale for some time after and indeed, continues today.

Life after Rwanda
Dallaire was medically released from the Canadian Armed Forces on April 22, 2000, suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. At the time of his retirement he held the rank of lieutenant-general.

Blaming himself for the failures of the mission, he began a spiral into depression, culminating on June 20, 2000, when he was rushed to hospital after being found under a park bench in Hull, Quebec. Intoxicated and suffering from a reaction with his prescription anti-depressants, the mixture almost put him into a coma. The story gained national headlines and sparked a fierce debate over the rules of engagement forced upon UN Peacekeepers.

After the 'park-bench' incident, Dallaire began writing his book, started lecturing on his experiences, and was well on the road to recovery. He has since stated that during this bleak period, he considered suicide and attempted it on several occasions.

In January 2004, Dallaire appeared at the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda to testify against Colonel Théoneste Bagosora.

In 2004, PBS Frontline featured a documentary named The Ghosts of Rwanda[3]. In an interview [4] conducted for the documentary and recorded over the course of four days in October 2003, LGen Dallaire has said: "Rwanda will never ever leave me. It's in the pores of my body. My soul is in those hills, my spirit is with the spirits of all those people who were slaughtered and killed that I know of, and many that I didn't know...."

In Canada, Dallaire is considered a hero who tried with all his strength to stop the bloodshed of a nation going mad and managed to at least save some lives, despite his difficulties. In 2004, he was 16th on the voted list of The Greatest Canadian, the highest-rated military figure on the list.

Dallaire worked as a Special Advisor to the Canadian Government on War Affected Children and the Prohibition of Small Arms Distribution, as well as with international agencies with the same focus, including child labour. He is a great proponent of the concept of NGO world, and is currently a fellow at The Carr Center For Human Rights Policy at Harvard University's JFK School of Government.

The 2004 film Hotel Rwanda featured a colonel loosely based on LGen Dallaire, played by Nick Nolte. Dallaire is quoted as saying that neither the producer, nor Nolte himself, consulted with him before shooting the film.

Nonskimmer · 11-07-2005, 10:21 PM

I knew all that, and I stick by what I said earlier.

102first_hussars · 11-08-2005, 02:19 AM

I agree with what you said, just wanted to give more to the thread if this is the new topic.

Maestro · 11-08-2005, 02:58 PM

Okay, I have to apologize to all of you. After contacting the Belgian Ministry of Defence, I realised that my sources were wrong.

Translation of the E-mail I just received :

"Hello.

To answer your question, Mr. Dallaire is NOT prosecuted by Belgian justice.

Ja Régibeau
Cabinet de la Défense."

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 11-08-2005, 03:21 PM

Too bad!

Nonskimmer · 11-08-2005, 04:13 PM

How's that Adler?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 11-09-2005, 03:57 AM

Nothing I think I misunderstood the post.

Nonskimmer · 11-09-2005, 05:20 AM

I wasn't trying to be confrontational. Really, if you feel the man should be pursued as some kind of war criminal, I'm curious as to why.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 11-10-2005, 01:35 PM

No I dont really care what whether he is pursued or not. Personally I dont really think he should be because of the fact that Commanders make mistakes. He did not commit a masacre or anything like that. I do believe though that he should be stipped of all titles.

I just purley misread what it said.