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Old 03-13-2008, 10:06 PM   #1
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Racial tensions roil Dem race

Racial tensions roil Dem race

By: Ben Smith and David Paul Kuhn
Mar 12, 2008 06:07 AM EST
Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama

Racial tensions roil Dem race - Ben Smith and David Paul Kuhn - Politico.com

The argument over race and grievance could carry short-term benefits for Hillary Rodham Clinton and could boost her support among white voters in Pennsylvania, who may be turned off by a more intense focus on Obama's race.

The Clinton and Obama campaigns are once again locked in tense fight over race, as both sides refuse to budge on the question of what constitutes an offensive comment and what counts as a sincere apology.

The argument over race and grievance could carry short-term benefits for Hillary Rodham Clinton and could boost her support among white voters in Pennsylvania, who may be turned off by a more intense focus on Barack Obama's race. Obama's promise has been based in part on his dexterity in moving past the old-fashioned political battlegrounds — including the politics of race — where he's found himself battling Clinton in recent days.

But a Clinton supporter's charge that Obama has received preferential treatment because he's black also carries serious dangers for her, as senior members of Congress and other superdelegates begin to signal discomfort with the Clinton campaign's increasingly sharp attacks. Notably, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Tuesday she thought Clinton's attacks on Obama had put a joint ticket out of the question.

Tuesday's sharp exchange of words between the two campaigns was touched off, ironically, by a remark made by a pioneer from an earlier era: former New York Rep. Geraldine Ferraro, the Democratic vice presidential nominee in 1984, who told a California newspaper that Obama had benefited from his race.

"If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position," she said. "If he was a woman [of any race], he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."

The cycle of offense and apology — on racial grounds and others — has become a familiar feature of this campaign. But both campaigns swerved deliberately from the pattern Tuesday, choosing confrontation over delicate compromise. Obama's aides announced they'd had enough "offensive" attacks, while Clinton's suggested that they'd had enough of the politics of grievance. A top Obama adviser suggested that Clinton should "repudiate" Ferraro's words, and another demanded that Clinton drop her from the campaign. Clinton's campaign, in response, essentially accused Obama of being the one to inject race into the contest, labeling his very complaint a "false, personal and politically calculated attack."

The reactions began Monday night with a relatively mild reaction from Clinton's campaign to the Ferraro comment.

"We disagree with her," spokesman Howard Wolfson told Politico.

Obama's campaign called a midday conference call, in which Obama's chief strategist, David Axelrod, drew a line in the sand.

"All this is part of an insidious pattern that needs to be addressed," he said, suggesting that Clinton is "trying to send a signal to her supporters that anything goes."

Axelrod walked a fine line, not explicitly citing any racial element to the "pattern," and Obama aides later stressed that he had not intended to suggest there was a racial element to the attacks — just a level of "negativity." But the items Axelrod cited — two Clinton supporters' suggestions that Obama's past drug use would hurt him, and Clinton's "own inexplicable unwillingness" to affirm Obama's Christianity in a television interview — have been interpreted in the past by many Obama supporters, inside and outside the campaign, through a racial prism.

Axelrod also called on Clinton to drop Ferraro from her finance committee.

But Clinton responded blandly.

"I do not agree with that, and you know it's regrettable that any of our supporters on both sides say things that veer off into the personal," she said in Pennsylvania.

Then, instead of complying with the demand to ditch a symbol of women's political progress, Clinton's campaign went back on offense. Her aides pointed to a moment, six weeks ago in South Carolina, at which Obama's campaign had appeared for a moment to cry racism — with one spokeswoman distributing a memo listing allegedly offensive comments from the Clintons and their allies, and another pointing to "a pattern, or a series of comments" on race. But Obama's senior aides never stated that grievance, and the candidate himself reeled it back in at a Las Vegas debate, appearing to say he regretted his campaign's role in advancing the complaint.

"We agreed then. We agree today. Supporters from both campaigns will get overzealous. Sen. Clinton today reiterated that when asked about Geraldine Ferraro's recent comments," said Maggie Williams, Clinton's campaign manager.

It was Ferraro herself who then returned later Wednesday to add gasoline to the fire.

"Racism works in two different directions. I really think they're attacking me because I'm white," she said.
In another interview, she crystallized one of the Clinton campaign's unstated complaints about the racial dynamic of the contest.

"What I find offensive is every time somebody says something about the [Obama] campaign, you're accused of being racist," she said.

Her words drew another statement of disagreement from the Clinton campaign.

"Ms. Ferraro is speaking for herself. We have made clear that we do not agree with her remarks," said Wolfson.

Ferraro was not removed from the campaign — the action Clinton's aides had sought, and gotten, from Obama when one of his advisers called Clinton a "monster" last week.

An Obama adviser, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, insisted that his candidate was right both on the substance and on the politics.

"At some point, you have to hit back at this stuff. They are playing this card and you can't just let it lay there. You've got to push back on it," said the adviser.

But driving both campaigns' decisions was, above all, the quest for political advantage.

"They have had a really good run recently. This [Ferraro comment] was an opportunity for us to turn the tide back on them," said the Obama adviser. "It's an opportunity for them to have some bad press here."

Beth Frerking contributed to this report.
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Should there be Affirmative Action in politics?
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I think you can trace this back to Geraldine Ferraro, and the pastor of
Obama's church. Boy ! Can he stir up a crowd ! I also think that because
of all this hoo-rah, you can forget about a joint ticket.

Geraldine Ferraro has resigned from her "honorary" position in the Clinton
campaign organization.

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I cannot believe people are defending Obama on this. If he went to church there for 20 years he must have agreeed with what was being said. After hear that trash for 20 years, a person would start to believe it. Imagine if that had been a white pastor of McCain.

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Yeah, Clinton and Obama really don't get along.
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DB, I agree with you 100%. Look at what his wife had the poor judgment to say if you don't believe that the obamas don't subscribe to that preacher's fulminations. It is almost unbelievable that our country has come to this spot. What is scary is that the mainstream media don't want to make any connection between obama and his pastor. A parallel is to think about Hitler's book, "Mein Kampf." A lot of what he wrote in that book reflected his views, as people found out later to their sorrow. I have to believe that obama's views are close to those of that preacher. Any reasonable person, after hearing some of the hate that was spouted in that church, would have walked out and never come back.

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Any reasonable person, after hearing some of the hate that was spouted in that church, would have walked out and never come back.
What has the PASTOR been PREACHING?
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Imagine if that had been a white pastor of McCain.
McCain was ask to disassociate himself with a controversal pastor. Will try to find.

Seasku, Dr. Jeremiah Wright has been preaching that the white man is the cause of all black man's ills. I've only heard audio but will see if I can find some text.
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The church that Obama is a member of sells video of services. The media has been playing the recordings. An example is how the US used atomic weapons twice against Japan, we funded the deaths in the middle east and South Africa and we should not be upset about the bombings on 9/11/01 because it was the results of the country past bad actions. Sound bites have been all over the news. You may be able to find something on utube.

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What has the PASTOR been PREACHING?
The guy is a piece of SH*T. And if Obama doesn't distance himself soon, there's gonna be a big time backlash.

Just a small sampling of the garbage that comes out of his mouth.

Among other things, he has said.....

The US government created HIV to kill black people.

In one 2003 sermon, commenting on the treatment of African-Americans in the United States, Wright says "the government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three strikes law and then wants us to sing 'God bless America,' No, no, no, not 'God bless America,' God damn America -- that's in the Bible, you're killing innocent people, God damn America for treating us citizens as less than human."

According to ABC, of 9/11, Reverend Wright goes on: "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

Jeremiah Wright goes on to comment on the Clinton campaign, seemingly compares Obama's story to that of Jesus Christ, and suggests that the U.S. government intentionally provides drugs to African-Americans in an attempt to imprison them, among other claims.

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The funny thing about it is that the media has been playing some clips of this preacher ranting and raving and before they play the clip they caution the listeners that the stuff contains some bad words. I was all braced for some real blasphemy. The only word I heard that could have been bad was "******." Needless to say I was not overly shocked. obama says he doesn't agree with everything his preacher says and does. Pretty lame! My opinion is that obama goes along with all this preacher says. He and the preacher have been very close for 20 years. He allegedly consulted with his pastor before running for the senate and for president. The preacher is a disciple of Louis Farrakhan also. Sorry, I did not know that the word was not acceptable. Anyway, the word is the unacceptable word for african americans.

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