The Real Threat; Not Communism, but Big Gov't and the Left

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

In many countries you are probably right, but not all countries. And you also have to remember one thing, what is good for the US is not good for everyone else and other countries.

Basically what I am tryign to say is:

LIVE AND LET LIVE

Dont push culture and your own ways upon others, because they like it the way it is for them.

[marconi]

I still don't understand what is the point of your statements.Yes, the bigger the government the less efficient it is.So what is your proposal?To write to your congressman every time you think that your rights are abused? Or to go for demonstrations in front of White House? Or to fire all bureaucrats in the country?

The best example in the world is most probably the USA. Incidentally we have the strongest economy in the world. Why, because we are the most free.

LOL.The funniest statement I've ever seen.

[Harvard]

Hi Marconi:

I still don't understand what is the point of your statements.Yes, the bigger the government the less efficient it is.So what is your proposal?To write to your congressman every time you think that your rights are abused? Or to go for demonstrations in front of White House? Or to fire all bureaucrats in the country?

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The best example in the world is most probably the USA. Incidentally we have the strongest economy in the world. Why, because we are the most free.


LOL.The funniest statement I've ever seen.[Basically what I am tryign to say is:

LIVE AND LET LIVE

Dont push culture and your own ways upon others, because they like it the way it is for them.

I appreciate that. Excellent question! It tends to work like this; Americans in general will not tolerate abuse of power. Just like the statement I mentioned earlier about my boss, everybody in their own way will become very angry. In protest mass amounts of people write their officials, and simply do not stand for it.

A good example, in my opinion was the Vietnam war. Popular opinion at the time was lost, and incompetent leadership was not allowed by the citizens overall.

Mr. Adler:

Basically what I am tryign to say is:

LIVE AND LET LIVE

Dont push culture and your own ways upon others, because they like it the way it is for them.

I respect that, but I am merely stating certain observations. I'm not pushing anything, these are real things which really occur.

[plan_D]

The best example in the world is most probably the USA. Incidentally we have the strongest economy in the world. Why, because we are the most free.

Harvard;

http://christianparty.net/gdp.htm

You have taken your information from the liberals that you dispise so much. Isn't that embarassing?

[Harvard]

That's a coincidence.

[plan_D]

Can't you grasp the idea that you are in fact living off Liberal propaganda? That it took a British "liberal" (In your definition) to educate you (A "Christian Conservative") about the other "Christian Conservative" realities.

Maybe you should attend more Christian Party gatherings.

[Harvard]

No, ever heard of a coincidence? Look at the GDP, and be silenced.

[pbfoot]

The US has the largest economy but its at this point far from the best

[plan_D]

Strongest doesn't mean largest, did you never learn the English language? The U.S has the largest because of it's size. Compared to Japan's economy it is no more stronger than a straw house. Per worker Japan has a much stronger economy - and it's pension savings actually exist as opposed to the U.S debt in that same area.

Us "The U.S has the world's largest economy," by all means. But it isn't the strongest, Japan's is stronger. You obviously seem to be stupid enough to look at one single number and make conclusions from that. GDP per worker ... look ... then shut up.

[Harvard]

Yes biggest and strongest is the US, quit assuming people are stupid, that's disrespectful on a discusson board. You are also speaking in a condecending tone too, stop. Debate in a respectful manner, w/o attempting to discredit people.


The US has a per capita GDP of 41,500; Japan's is 28,000. Let's get back on the subject!

[plan_D]

I don't need to assume, you've shown it. You have no place to tell me to stop anything, so don't even think you have. You are showing no knowledge on the subject, since the U.S has the largest but it's far from the strongest. Obviously you don't know the meaning of strong - Japan's economy is much more stable than the U.S.A's - look at the charts, and pay attention to the FACT that Japan's GDP per WORKER is higher than the U.S.As. Then read the article on "broken window economy" ... just do yourself a favour, and read a little beyond the liberal propaganda that you're living off.

Why don't you just read the website, Havard? It's even backing up your argument against "Big Government!"

It solidly shows that the U.S isn't the worlds strongest economy ... no matter what you read from the American propaganda. I'm not saying the U.S is a liar ... I'm saying that people like you are looking at one figure - and obviously do not understand the difference between large and strong.

[Harvard]

The US has a per capita GDP of 41,500; Japan's is 28,000. Let's get back on the subject!

What's per capita mean?

[FLYBOYJ]

Per unit of population; per person: In that year, Americans earned $15,304 per capita. Among the states, Connecticut has a high per capita income.
Equally to each individual.

[plan_D]

What does your stomach look like from the inside, Havard? I ask because I notice you have your head up your own ass.

Read the website, it'll explain to your simple mind how the U.S is actually creating illusions in the economic growth. Then, maybe, you'll read how the U.S puts more money (percentage wise) into government than Japan. And, if the U.S put as much money in as Japan then the U.S would actually have Personal Savings in the plus instead of being the only nation in the world to be in the negative.

Per capita equals per person, and ... let me see, not everyone works. And let me look again, the U.S has a larger GDP per person ... but there's no Personal Savings, Gross Savings paying for debts, Negative $77,000 per American household, trade deficit of $420 billion a year, filed bankruptcies higher than ever in U.S history ... all the solid signs of a strong economy.

Total output in Japan in 1997 was the equivalent of $9,759 billion dollars, 18% higher than the US. But manufacturing was 35% of Japan's GDP while it was only 17% of ours. As a percent of GDP, construction in Japan was 2 1/2 times higher than ours (10% vs. 4.1%), and savings in Japan were infinitely higher than ours (15% of GDP versus zero in the US). We spent more of GDP for services (21% versus 16%), mining (1.5% versus .2%), wholesale and retail trade (16% versus 10%), real estate 11% versus 8%), services (21% versus 16%), and government (13% versus 6%). If we spent proportionately no more for government than Japan does, it would cost us half a trillion per year less which would enable Americans to have Personal Savings again.

Again, a strong economy ...

Read the site... go on, you might learn something.

For the topic, if the U.S is such a good example of a better government system. Why does it spend more on it's government than Japan? And Japan had a growth of 1.9% with it's Yen increasing by 25% against the USD. Japan is a better nation for your argument than your own.

[Harvard]

PlanD:

I don't insult you, knock off the insults, keep the discussion civil.