Sheehan launches Pelosi challenge

FLYBOYJ · 07-12-2007, 11:55 AM

A cat fight between two librial bitches - it don't get any better!

renrich · 07-24-2007, 06:05 PM

Wouldn't it be lovely if sheehan would run against pelosi and beat her. The face of the democrat party.

Erich · 07-24-2007, 06:31 PM

I'd like to see a live TV debate between these 2 idiots

ah no I wouldn't ............

ToughOmbre · 07-24-2007, 06:54 PM

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I'd like to see a live TV debate between these 2 idiots

ah no I wouldn't ............

Me neither. I would have rather been on the Bataan Death March in 1942 than be forced to watch those two incompetant buffoons.

davparlr · 07-24-2007, 10:46 PM

Well, let's think about this, a hair brained pinko defeats the Democratic Speaker of the House. What are the ramifications. Probably good!! Pelosi is far more dangerous than Sheehan ever would be, and she would be deposed. The Democatic leadership would be in disarray and tainted by introduction of a laughing stock in their midst. I think this would significantly weaken the House Democrats. And, besides, there is already another Democratic radical in house, Waters! Probably more. And the more of these types, the more likely the people would see the Democrats for what they are.

renrich · 07-25-2007, 07:39 AM

Agree!

ToughOmbre · 07-25-2007, 08:28 AM

If Sheehan did win it would be a great embarrassment to the Dems, and getting Pelosi out would be good for the country, but there's no way that's going to happen. What a choice! The voters will embarrass themselves either way.

timshatz · 07-25-2007, 10:59 AM

Sheehan wins and she becomes another Cynthia McKinney in Congress. Nutzo but entertaining to watch self destruct. And only going to create havoc for the Dems. They play with fire (the Dems that is) by courting the nutjob vote as it is, but when a nutjob gets elected, it'll be a loony fox in the henhouse. Sheehan won't know if she should be drooling or biting!

Probably both.

ccheese · 07-25-2007, 02:40 PM

I, personally, do not think it will happen. I'm sure Pelosi will not try to
impeach Bush, and I doubt that Sheehan stands a snowballs chance of
defeating Pelosi.

What ever happened to the "good ole days" of FDR ?

Charles

renrich · 07-25-2007, 06:05 PM

What good old days of FDR are you speaking of? The double dip depression days when he was in office? The days when he tried to pack the supreme court? The days when he secretly broke the law to help China against Japan? The days when some of his unconstitutional programs enacted were struck down by the supreme court? The days when we were caught with our pants down at Pearl Harbor? The days when we left our troops out on a limb in the Philipines and they were all killed or captured where 40% of them died from maltreatment? The days in WW2 where Roosevelt said that the Soviets would become more like us and we would become more like them? The days in 44-45 when Roosevelt was so ill he was practically incapacitated and agreements between he and Joe Stalin against Churchill's better judgment set the stage for the Cold War. If the media had existed in FDR's day like today and the opposition party had been as power mad as the opposition is today, there would have cries for impeachment and censure and Roosevelt's approval ratings would have been lower than a snake with fallen arches. Those were tough times as today we face challenges and FDR was far from perfect and there was plenty of criticisim and dissension in this country during his terms, just not to the extent there is today. Just as an example, how do you think the drys felt when FDR backed the repeal of prohibition? Of couse the media protected FDR on his disability and his mistresses on the side . Do you think they would do that for Bush?

davparlr · 07-25-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by renrich

What good old days of FDR are you speaking of? The double dip depression days when he was in office? The days when he tried to pack the supreme court? The days when he secretly broke the law to help China against Japan? The days when some of his unconstitutional programs enacted were struck down by the supreme court? The days when we were caught with our pants down at Pearl Harbor? The days when we left our troops out on a limb in the Philipines and they were all killed or captured where 40% of them died from maltreatment? The days in WW2 where Roosevelt said that the Soviets would become more like us and we would become more like them? The days in 44-45 when Roosevelt was so ill he was practically incapacitated and agreements between he and Joe Stalin against Churchill's better judgment set the stage for the Cold War. If the media had existed in FDR's day like today and the opposition party had been as power mad as the opposition is today, there would have cries for impeachment and censure and Roosevelt's approval ratings would have been lower than a snake with fallen arches. Those were tough times as today we face challenges and FDR was far from perfect and there was plenty of criticisim and dissension in this country during his terms, just not to the extent there is today. Just as an example, how do you think the drys felt when FDR backed the repeal of prohibition? Of couse the media protected FDR on his disability and his mistresses on the side . Do you think they would do that for Bush?

All you have said here is true. I do think the FDR was important because he gave people hope through his own charisma and, although probably none of his programs worked, at least people thought he was doing something. This was important in snuffing out any comunnists and nazi movements, which were growing quite strong. The only thing that saved FDRs domestic economic plan was the build up to WWII.

renrich · 07-26-2007, 07:59 AM

True, Dav. I think some of our problem today is that the average person because of his ignorance of history lacks perspective and the omnipresent media doesn't do anything to alleviate the problem. I remember well the last days of the Truman administration when his popularity was at rock bottom, just as Bush's is today, yet Truman, in the light of hindsight, had led the country in many worthwhile endeavors and his legacy, in helping Europe recover, the Berlin air lift and saving S Korea from communism were great accomplishments.

davparlr · 07-26-2007, 01:33 PM

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True, Dav. I think some of our problem today is that the average person because of his ignorance of history lacks perspective and the omnipresent media doesn't do anything to alleviate the problem. I remember well the last days of the Truman administration when his popularity was at rock bottom, just as Bush's is today, yet Truman, in the light of hindsight, had led the country in many worthwhile endeavors and his legacy, in helping Europe recover, the Berlin air lift and saving S Korea from communism were great accomplishments.

It is very foolish to judge a government leader's impact until well after the event. In Bush's case, I think we will long appreciate the conservative judges he got approved. They will help us, I hope, move away from a government of the judges, by the judges, and for the judges.

syscom3 · 07-26-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by davparlr

It is very foolish to judge a government leader's impact until well after the event. In Bush's case, I think we will long appreciate the conservative judges he got approved. They will help us, I hope, move away from a government of the judges, by the judges, and for the judges.

And perhaps the conservative judges will be activists in their own area's of interest?

The only solution to control judges is by having a reaffirmation of their appointment by popular elections every "x" number of years.

renrich · 07-26-2007, 06:17 PM

As long as they stick to a strict interpretation of the constitution, I will be ok with them. We had elected criminal judges in Texas and politics and jurisprudence in my opinion don't mix well, especially at the level of the supreme court.