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04-08-2008, 10:43 PM
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this is a video on Islam, and its bullshit
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(how can anyone say 9/11 is a conspiracy you idiots) LiveLeak.com - Fitna the Movie (New Version 4-4-200
btw like your site, had some fun looking around, should be posting alot in the near future 
and also, interesting fact, they posted this on youtube and it was taken down, hmmm i wonder why?
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04-09-2008, 10:16 AM
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04-09-2008, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmywiT  well tbh it is quite stupid to depict the views of fundamentalists as the views of the whole. I am friends with 2 Muslim guys and they don't believe any of that ****.
It also uses shock imagery to get its point across which I disapprove of in any media. |
The thing that makes me mad ... Is the "so called Whole" who say  there not a bunch of killers in the Muslim world ...Just sit back and let there brothers run around killing people ...
When are the "so called" good Muslims going to stop the mad dogs in there world... I'm getting to a point I do not want any Muslims around ...
Your statement is BS Jimmy ...Ask your two friends why they will not stop the fundamentalists in the Muslim world..They just sit back and let them do it ..Its sad but the problem is the fundamentalists run the Muslim world ...
The Muslim "Whole" are a band of *****'s ...If you just sit there and not try to stop someone hurting people ...YOUR JUST AS BAD ...
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04-09-2008, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Haztoys When are the "so called" good Muslims going to stop the mad dogs in there world... I'm getting to a point I do not want any Muslims around ... | The silence of the moderate people of that religion is deafening.
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Originally Posted by syscom3 The silence of the moderate people of that religion is deafening. | YES!!
I keep hearing that Islam is a religion of peace, love and charity and that a vocal minority is perverting the religion for their own agenda.
Well... I'd sure like to see the "peace loving" majority step forward and lend some support - moral or material to the cause.
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Originally Posted by Haztoys The thing that makes me mad ... Is the "so called Whole" who say there not a bunch of killers in the Muslim world ...Just sit back and let there brothers run around killing people ...
When are the "so called" good Muslims going to stop the mad dogs in there world... I'm getting to a point I do not want any Muslims around ...
Your statement is BS Jimmy ...Ask your two friends why they will not stop the fundamentalists in the Muslim world..They just sit back and let them do it ..Its sad but the problem is the fundamentalists run the Muslim world ...
The Muslim "Whole" are a band of *****'s ...If you just sit there and not try to stop someone hurting people ...YOUR JUST AS BAD ...
Flame away | all i am saying is that I am a Christian, and say someone was to equate my beliefs with the Westboro Baptists then i would be pretty cheesed. I don't think that I have to go off and stop the Westboro guys from picketing dead servicemens funerals, why should they have to "stop fundementalism". The thought of my two friends quitting college, putting on superman capes and flying to the middle east to stop terrorism frankly makes me laugh. In fact in class tomorrow I might just ask one of them why he doesnt "stop terrorism" just for a laugh.
Islam is not some big club. Besides the moderate muslims do make themselves heard, at least in this country. They are desperate not to be compared to middle eastern idiots.
Sadly much of the support for fundementalist and aggressive Islam comes directly from Saudi Arabia. And we cant do jack because they control most of the worlds oil reserves, and have just offered to pay us (UK) a LOT of money for some of our eurofighters. Just saw Gordan Brown getting all chummy with them on the news which made me sad. The Saudis have one of the worst human rights records in the world and continue using barbaric punishments like stoning and amputation. Theyre whole agenda is undermining us the one hand while pretending to help us whith the other. If you want to blame someone, blame them, not the average muslim on the street, who is most probably a normal guy.
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Country: | Sorry, Jimmy but the guys here are right. I understand what you're saying about your friends but why are they here trying to show how good a muslim is, why not go to their country of origin and stop it where it festers.
As far as Christians following that advice, it is done. I bring up the Branch Davidians, Jonestown, among others. Wacko cults are tolerated until they become dangerous and then we stop them. Unlike in Muslim worlds were they sit back and say nothing. And don't preach about it being small factions, not when they broadcast hate through their childrens TV shows and in the schools.
Its a religion of tolerance in name only.
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Originally Posted by Topf ya and you know what, this was made in holland, and the government apologised to Islam. no one has any balls anymore, to stand up to do whats right. | We have a huge Islamic majority which also spoke against the terrorist attacks, so I think the government was right apologising to them.
Oh, and Geert Wilders, who made this film is a political clown, only doing this for publicity. Trying to get to the narrow minded part of the dutch population. You know the type, only saying what goes wrong but never having a solution.
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THIS IS A RELIGIOUS WAR!!! NOT A WAR AGAINST TERRORISTS. It just so happens the means of fighting that war are asymmetric and non-traditional. So let's get it on.
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04-20-2008, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Haztoys The Muslim "Whole" are a band of *****'s ...If you just sit there and not try to stop someone hurting people ...YOUR JUST AS BAD ...
Flame away | And worse still if you actively support someone who is hurting people and the list of countries or internal organisations that have done that over the last couple of centuries is a big one
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THIS IS A RELIGIOUS WAR!!! .
| The Netherlands has always had a culture of tolerance. No extreme party ever had a big support in our society. Neither NAZI's nor communism ever had a big group of followers. We always took pride in the fact that everyone was equal, and political ideas nor religious believes would change that. We talk about freedom of speech and religion, it even is in our constitution.
God help us if a hate-preacher like Wilders ever get in charge here. The day we start condemning people because of their religion, it'll be the day that we've lost the war. It will be a cultural change, just as much as if we would have changes into muslims ourselves. We'll be no different than the muslim extremists and so the ayatollahs would have won.
People like Wilders are talking about "preserving the dutch culture", while he is as big a thread to that culture as the muslims.
What right do we have to accuse them to spread hatred (like Wilders does in Fitna) if we do exactly the same? What will the world have gained when we win, if we have as much intolerance as they have? It would be a tactical win, but a major strategic loss!
Please let it be a war against extremists and not against a whole religion. Please let us not abandon our own principles for their sake. Let us win, not lose.
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