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03-15-2006, 10:33 AM
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#16 | | "Shooter"
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Country:  | Okay, I think some of your guys need to get a clue. Israel spies on everyone and guess what? We spy on them too. There is a lot more intelligence work going on against allies than most of you would believe.
Plan D, shame on you. Your simplistic rooting the good from the bad looks good on paper, but apparently that didn't work in Northern Ireland, did it? It was more of a matter of time before everyone realized that it was senseless violence. I will agree with you about getting rid of political correctness though.
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03-15-2006, 10:54 AM
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#17 | | the old Sage
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Country: | Eric is right on the monies guys, sorry if you disagree, israel has attacked in self defence only, Syria, Saudia Arabia on the other no, Egypt no, and what did the mid east nations get in return....... ? body bags, and it is going to contiue for both sides in that conflict. Do not make it so easy to point a condemining finger when none of you have ever been there to see it first hand and take liberal news media B.S. as fact.......what crap, go visit and learn for your self first before the judgment call. Saying you know Muslim believers in the states, and Europe is not the same as talking and getting know these people in their home areas.
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03-15-2006, 12:15 PM
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#18 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | 1956 Israel attacked in self defence I love revisionist history as for Iran that is a bird of a different feather it is not the Palestinians living in a Warsaw type ghetto with no future please try and differentiate between countries you paint everyone who Islamic with the same brush that is wrong My personal feelings are that evangelical Christians and fundamentalist Isalmics are the scariest of the lot who try and foist there warped outlook on life onto civilization
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03-15-2006, 12:40 PM
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#19 | | the old Sage
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Country: | I respect you opinons though do not agree with them. by the way I AM an evangelical Christian, and I'm going to destroy the world..........this is getting funnier with every posting foot.
truly back to topic ok, I served with the Israeli soldiers via training them with updated weapons systems and we were stonked as the venacular is put by mortars continually during practice sessions. I still serve where I am called whether mid-east or the cold frontiers. If I am fired on I will fire back in return.
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03-15-2006, 12:41 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by evangilder Okay, I think some of your guys need to get a clue. Israel spies on everyone and guess what? We spy on them too. There is a lot more intelligence work going on against allies than most of you would believe.
Plan D, shame on you. Your simplistic rooting the good from the bad looks good on paper, but apparently that didn't work in Northern Ireland, did it? It was more of a matter of time before everyone realized that it was senseless violence. I will agree with you about getting rid of political correctness though. | Eric and Erich like I said under Liberty thread is as long as Israel keeps it to their borders I am fine with defending yourself. But if you take it outside your border (not talking about defending here) that is the problem. Israel is very dangerous and should not be trusted either. Fine they are our friend now and lets keep it that way but also keep a eye on them and never turn our back on them. They are extreme and are dangerous.
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03-15-2006, 12:46 PM
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#21 | | the old Sage
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Country: | go to the other thread and read my comment
sadly media is warped and what you hear may not be the truth, my exclamation about living over there and seeing first hand, interviewing if possible both sides, seeing, living, breathing and dying. from what pbfoot said he knows at least from 6 months of living time, how far to the extent he was able to drive and talk withing Israel I am uncertain. i have been beyond Israel's borders as well, to places I will not comment on 
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03-15-2006, 03:02 PM
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#22 | | Senior Member
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| I totally agree with Pisis, Eric, Harvard and Erichs postings.
There is an old saying here that I will slightly change for those who are sensitive to certain words.
Give an Arab/Muslim an inch, they will take a mile.
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03-16-2006, 06:44 PM
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#23 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | There is also a double-standard in the mind.... The video shows the last Israeli troops and tanks leaving Gaza. It also shows what happens afterwards when Palestinian forces enter... http://inhonor.net/videos/uped/fl_vi...p?f_num=197500 | |
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03-18-2006, 01:53 PM
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#24 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | I personally would like to see the whole Middle East fall off the map entirely. It is the ass crack of the world.
No Middle East = Worlds Problems cut by 1/2.
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03-18-2006, 05:38 PM
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#25 | | Senior Member
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| Adler, I fully agree with your last post.
****, I was stalked by a raghead when I was at the Frankfurt Airport. I was minding my own business--spending money at German shops, and some ****in chowderfaced raghead; decided he wanted to start some trouble.
I really can't see how you all in Germany can stand those lochers.
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03-18-2006, 08:10 PM
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#26 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | There was no attempt on rooting good from bad in Northern Ireland. We gave the nation the best of the split, we didn't attempt to control all of Ireland. It would be easy to end Northern Ireland disputes, ship the protestants back to Britain, or ship all the Catholics out of Northern Ireland.
The opposing sides in Northern Ireland are obvious. The liberal thinking and ways, other than violence, to solve the problem left the problem to grow and grow. But it seems to be calming down now , sure it took a while.
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03-18-2006, 09:14 PM
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#27 | | Minister of Whoopass
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and some fu*kin chowderfaced raghead | Do us all a favor and dont use that word anymore BTG....
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03-19-2006, 07:25 AM
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#28 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Well I don't agree with this, too, as I'm the last one to be a racist.
But seen from that point of view, also your avatar is "politically incorrect"... | |
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03-19-2006, 08:46 AM
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Country:  | yeah, muslim guys don't wear turbans, and when i first saw Bin Laden, he actually looked like a nice guy
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03-19-2006, 08:54 AM
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#30 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Its not about being politically correct, its about coming across as a racist that we want to avoid....
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