Is there a double standard in the Middle East?

Hunter368 · 03-14-2006, 02:30 PM

I would say yes, but Israel has proven safer than Muslim countries in the past. What do you say? Just starting a discussion here is all. Here is what the former and current leaders of Iran say. Purely on a basic level he is right there is a double standard, but Israel is doing it just for defense of its borders. Could you ever see Israel as a threat to Western powers threatening to use its NW for blackmail or leverage vs the West? Lets see where this thread goes, if it does go any where.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...97D31EEA4D.htm

Pisis · 03-14-2006, 05:06 PM

They're just lieing scumbags, don't trust them a single word. If they say it's a peaceful program, I'd bet my dick it's for the WMD's...

Yes there is a double standar. But for Israel. Israel is just trying to defend from these freaks and everyone blames Israel for "being evil" to Palestinains, Arabs, etc, etc...

Has anytime Israel threatened another country? No!
Has other (Arab) countries threatened Israel? Yes!
So I say, **** 'em all!

Henk · 03-14-2006, 05:24 PM

Yep.

Henk

syscom3 · 03-14-2006, 05:31 PM

I have to agree with Pisis.

Erich · 03-14-2006, 06:03 PM

without a doubt the mideast nations want Israel erased from memory and the country just a waste land so they can take over and put a mosque on every block. I have to commend the people of this country for putting up with this crock for so many eyars, one day it is going to come down to a violent face off and quicker than we realize ........

Henk · 03-14-2006, 06:16 PM

Why don't the US goverment just nuke them and get it over and done. Then we wont have to put up wiht there ****.

Henk

pbfoot · 03-14-2006, 07:13 PM

how many Israeli spies have been busted in the US and have they sold technology they have rec'd to other sources yes they have spied on the US .They've used Canadian passports to facilitate illegal acts .

Harvard · 03-14-2006, 07:28 PM

Actually listened to a Phd in Mid-East studies from the Naval Post Graduate School in Monterey, CA on the radio today, and he says exactly what a few of us on this board have been saying all along.

Once Iraq gets more freedom, and these Moslems start making some money; moderation will become the order of the day for them. Their dogmatic beliefs will soften more. The root problem is the majority of them are poor and unsuccessful, so as poverty dissipates moderation will prevail. Look at Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, even Jordan, and soon Iraq.

Do you see extemism in these other more moderate Arab nations(excluding Iraq). Don't play the apocalypse card, stay optimistic; moderation, freedom, success and wealth are much stronger than hate and poverty. Poverty and lack of success, I believe, are the factors which fuel extremists. They are resentful and willing to "die for Allah", because they are ignorant and poor. I haven't heard of a rich and happy suicide bomber.

pbfoot · 03-14-2006, 07:33 PM

several of the 9/11 guys came from comfortable lives but I believe your correct in stating when your deprived you have nothing to lose

03-15-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pbfoot

how many Israeli spies have been busted in the US and have they sold technology they have rec'd to other sources yes they have spied on the US .They've used Canadian passports to facilitate illegal acts .

Well I cant condone that, but the Israeli's are in a struggle to survive so I can see why they are paranoid.

plan_D · 03-15-2006, 04:14 AM

Israel have threatened, and attacked other Mid-East nations. They're no better than any of the Arab nations. The only reason the West allows Israel to have nuclear arms is because we didn't find out until they already had them ! And having a nuclear armed "ally" in the Middle-East is quite handy if things do kick off. After all, anyone with a bit of sense knows that Israel are stupid enough to launch a nuclear weapon in the face of any real threat. They had their finger on the trigger in the Gulf because Iraq were sending Scuds over.

And moderation in Saudi Arabia !? What planet are you living on!? That country breeds the worst of the extremists. It's the hive , but is left undisturbed by the West because it provides a purpose.

Because of leftist fear of war , and the unwillingness to wage it in todays society to achieve safety. Our politicians are left to lie and cheat to keep the public "happy" while protecting their own interests in the Mid-East. In the ideal world the West would have conquered all of the Middle-East and used the oil resource for ourselves with no threats from Muslim extremism ... and all at a much cheaper price, in both men and money. Instead, because of all this ***** footing around the root of the problem we are left being attacked in our own countries and bleeding in the sands of Iraq.

You don't even need to wipe out the Muslims in Arabia , just conquer it and make them puppet states. When you clear cut enemy from friend, life becomes a lot easier. And it wouldn't even be that hard of a conquest , in fact it'd be pretty easy.

Pisis · 03-15-2006, 07:06 AM

I have to agree on plan_D's 2nd paragraph, not the 1st one, of course...

Saudi Arabia is the largest producer of terrorists in the world...

Hunter368 · 03-15-2006, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by plan_D

Israel have threatened, and attacked other Mid-East nations. They're no better than any of the Arab nations. The only reason the West allows Israel to have nuclear arms is because we didn't find out until they already had them ! And having a nuclear armed "ally" in the Middle-East is quite handy if things do kick off. After all, anyone with a bit of sense knows that Israel are stupid enough to launch a nuclear weapon in the face of any real threat. They had their finger on the trigger in the Gulf because Iraq were sending Scuds over.

And moderation in Saudi Arabia !? What planet are you living on!? That country breeds the worst of the extremists. It's the hive , but is left undisturbed by the West because it provides a purpose.

Because of leftist fear of war , and the unwillingness to wage it in todays society to achieve safety. Our politicians are left to lie and cheat to keep the public "happy" while protecting their own interests in the Mid-East. In the ideal world the West would have conquered all of the Middle-East and used the oil resource for ourselves with no threats from Muslim extremism ... and all at a much cheaper price, in both men and money. Instead, because of all this ***** footing around the root of the problem we are left being attacked in our own countries and bleeding in the sands of Iraq.

You don't even need to wipe out the Muslims in Arabia , just conquer it and make them puppet states. When you clear cut enemy from friend, life becomes a lot easier. And it wouldn't even be that hard of a conquest , in fact it'd be pretty easy.

Damn PlanD I am starting to like you more and more. You are right 100%. PlanD you totally have it right. Every word you said is 100% right. Screw being politically right crap, go in there take them over and give them jobs pumping oil and make them puppet states. Best thing I have heard in days.

syscom3 · 03-15-2006, 09:05 AM

Who would you trust more?

1) A nuke armed Israel that just wants to be left alone.

2) A nuke armed muslim nation who who hates the west and is willing to go on a nuke jihad?

Hunter368 · 03-15-2006, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by syscom3

Who would you trust more?

1) A nuke armed Israel that just wants to be left alone.

2) A nuke armed muslim nation who who hates the west and is willing to go on a nuke jihad?

Oh I agree with you that right now Muslim nation are a bigger threat. But in the future I could easily see Israel being a problem. They suppose to be our allies now and look at everything they have done (and thats all we know about), they are sneaky little b*stards that have a habit of stabbing their allies in the back. ex. USS Liberty (they murdered those men, needlessly), many of their spies using Canada to get into USA and spying on their apartently biggest friend, USA. At this point I would say that Israel is just the lesser of two evils.

Even if we flattened or took out the Muslim nations would you ever turn your back on or trust Israel? I sure wouldn't.