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03-17-2006, 11:03 PM
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03-17-2006, 11:32 PM
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| Let's keep in mind that the American news media always portrays Israel as the good guys, and the Palestinians as terrorists.
We are brainwashed by our own media. Talk to some Palestinians, and they will tell you about how Israel bulldozes their houses, etc. Don't get me wrong I don't care for either side. I think both sides are extremists. | 
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03-18-2006, 10:26 AM
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Country:  | We always had CNN on your TV late at night, but they took it off when they just lied and told a lot of bullshit. Now we have BBC and it is much better and there are a lot of other things also on there.
It is true that the US media are just doing what is best for the goverment and they do not tell the gory part of a story, just a little bit of it.
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03-18-2006, 01:58 PM
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#34 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Henk I think that the US govermant does not wnat to make a big thing of this because they fear that they would lose Isreal as a friend in the middle east.
Henk | I dont think the US needs Isreal as a friend in the Middle East. I think that Isreal needs us more. Dont take me wrong, Isreal has the best military in the Middle East and can easily defend itself againt any aggressor with there fierce fighters however, the US being an ally of Isreal is a deterent for most countries to invade Isreal.
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03-18-2006, 08:03 PM
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Country:  | Excuse me, we do not need Israel to defend us against the Arabs. On the contrary, they need us. The U.S supplies Israel with countless amounts of equipment and technology, not to mention the billions of dollars.
I can bad-mouth Israel all I want, it's my right to do so. And you think that I support Arabia because I bad mouth Israel? Then you're warped. Israel are no better, no worse than the rest of the Middle-East. Just because they hold a democracy it doesn't make them better people.
I don't care how much you try and cover anything up, there is no excuse for slaughtering those men and destroying that ship. A good ally ? How? All America has ever done is held Israel up on it's shoulders. The only reason Israel can defend itself is because of it's big brother stood right behind it.
Don't you get it? American soldiers suffer and die because they have to go in there and help Israel. If they're so powerful and amazing, why do they need the U.S !?
And I'm not even getting into the creation of Israel and the murdering of British troops stationed in Palestine, both by Arabs and Jews. I have nothing against Jews, but I do certainly dislike Israel.
And it's all well and good telling people to lay off Israel on this site. But what about all those assaulting Britain, America, Germany, Italy, France ... the list could go on and on. I'm sure a fair few on here and some kind of bone to pick with Britain ...
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03-19-2006, 10:32 AM
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Country:  | 100% correct without massive US aid Israel would be a third world country no country could afford the military the size of Israel with 6 million people without massive aid
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03-19-2006, 10:50 AM
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#37 | | Minister of Whoopass
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without massive US aid Israel would be a third world country
| Without US aid, Israel wouldnt even exist... Quote: |
And it's all well and good telling people to lay off Israel on this site.
| No it isnt, because we slam Israel as well as everyone else...
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03-19-2006, 01:57 PM
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03-19-2006, 07:59 PM
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Country: | Dan, you know full well I was being sarcastic. 
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03-19-2006, 08:50 PM
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#40 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by plan_D Excuse me, we do not need Israel to defend us against the Arabs. On the contrary, they need us. The U.S supplies Israel with countless amounts of equipment and technology, not to mention the billions of dollars. | That is what I said. 
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03-19-2006, 08:56 PM
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#41 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Dan, you know full well I was being sarcastic.
| That wasnt pointed at u pD, but the individual, whoever, that said that.... I assumed u were quoting someone...
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03-19-2006, 09:45 PM
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Country: | Ah, sorry. I think it was Eric who told us not to slam Israel , I can't remember now. I suppose I could go back and look. Anyway, that was my bad. I agree with what you say. Everyone's nation gets slammed on here at some point or another ...
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03-20-2006, 01:16 AM
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#43 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I normally dont care, when I dont like it is when the person is slamming and does not know the facts about it. As long as they know what they are talking about, its all good to me.
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03-20-2006, 10:08 AM
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#44 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | My problem was the way it was stated. "Israel is scum" and then a few others jumping in villifying Israel. What bugs me the most is when people trash a country or culture for things that they have only read about and have not been to that country to see what is happening.
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03-20-2006, 05:27 PM
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#45 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Exactly evan. I feel the same way that you do.
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