USS Liberty and Israel.... the truth

Hunter368 · 03-14-2006, 04:16 PM

Dear Mr. President,

Saturday, June 8, 2002 marks the 35th anniversary of probably the most shameful day in American history. That day America's banner and honor were treacherously trashed by our so-called ally, Israel. Thirty four Americans were brutally slaughtered, 172 wounded, including myself. America's most sophisticated intelligence ship was so badly damaged it had to be scrapped. Israel deliberately attacked America's virtually unarmed USS LIBERTY in international waters, knowing full well our identity, in an assault that lasted as long as the attack on Pearl Harbor. On that bright, sunny, infamous day, the LIBERTY had a large American flag flapping in the wind and 10' high I.D. markings on her hull which were clearly visible during the full six hours (6:00 A.M. to 12:00 Noon) that low-flying, slow-moving, propeller recons, distinctly marked with Stars of David, reconnoitered our ship. Overheard radio transmission of the pilots confirmed that the Israel had positively identified the LIBERTY as American.

Suddenly at 2:00 p.m., the government of Israel put a knife in the back of America. In a diabolic attempt at deception, the Israelis began the attack with unmarked jet fighters using rockets, cannons, and napalm on our unprotected ship. Then three motor torpedo boats arrived on the scene and fired 6 torpedoes at us, one hitting its mark, midship's on the starboard side, instantly blowing to bits 25 of America's finest young men. The torpedo gunmen shot at our firefighters and stretcher-bearers, using us as target practice, maiming and murdering as many of America's sons as they could.

The captain ordered us to prepare to abandon ship, as the ship was in grave danger of sinking from a torpedo hit that left a 40' x 40' hole in her. There were only 3 life rafts left that they hadn't already destroyed. We put them over the side to put as many wounded in as possible. The torpedo boats machine gunned the life rafts and sank two of them and took one aboard their boat -- no survivors were to be taken! Helicopters were overhead to board our ship with Israeli commandos at the ready to finish us off.

Responding to a S.O.S. from the LIBERTY, the USS SARATOGA launched their jets approximately 15 minutes into the vicious Israeli attack. Within minutes after the launch, incredibly and inexplicably, Washington shamefully and unconscionably recalled the jets, abandoning helpless American sailors under fire, and subjecting them to an additional two hours of barbaric Israeli bombardment and butchery.

Fortuitously, when the Israelis picked up an invalid message that U.S. help was on the way, Israeli reluctantly was forced to terminate its ongoing assault. Without that break, I would not be alive writing this letter.

Ironically, help did not arrive until 18 hours after the attack when it was only 15 minutes away. When an American rescue ship finally arrived, what they found was shocking, the LIBERTY was in shambles, death on the water. There were 821 rocket and cannon holes in her hull, thousands of 50 caliber armor-piercing bullets riddling her skin, a tunnel size torpedo cavity in her broad side, and the residue of napalm that had been dropped to burn us up. Blood and body parts were strewn across the deck. A sad, outrageous story, but unfortunately true.

The crew of the most decorated naval ship in American history was ordered to remain silent under threat of court martial, imprisonment or worse, and we all knew what worst meant. The U.S. government has never challenged the obviously phony Israeli excuse of "mistaken identity", nor have they attempted to expose the dishonorable cover-up that continues to date. Truth and America's honor were ignominiously sacrificed to provide cover for Israel's transparent lies and despicable act of perfidy.

Israel's premeditated, sneak attack on the USS LIBERTY was a direct attack on America. The disgraceful refusal of unpatriotic American governmental officials of dubious allegiance to defend America and come to the aid of brave Americans under attack can only be characterized as treasonous.

Mr. President, on behalf of the courageous crew of the USS LIBERTY, dead and alive, I respectfully request that you commission a presidential panel to finally investigate the attack and cover-up of the USS LIBERTY, and report the truth to American people.

Thank you, Mr. President. God bless you! God bless America!

Respectfully,

Phillip F. Tourney, President USS LIBERTY Veterans Association

So whats the truth about the USS Liberty? Lets hear it. Why did it happen? Why no response from the USA? etc etc

Hunter368 · 03-14-2006, 04:21 PM

Some of the men from USS Liberty and ship pics.

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.com/liberty.htm

Hunter368 · 03-14-2006, 04:32 PM

Few more.

syscom3 · 03-14-2006, 05:01 PM

The Israeli's and USN have never really answered the questions about this attack.

Hunter368 · 03-14-2006, 05:02 PM

I know thats what I want to talk about.

Henk · 03-14-2006, 05:30 PM

I think that the US govermant does not wnat to make a big thing of this because they fear that they would lose Isreal as a friend in the middle east.

Henk

Gnomey · 03-14-2006, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Henk

I think that the US govermant does not wnat to make a big thing of this because they fear that they would lose Isreal as a friend in the middle east.

Henk

I think that would be part of it, however I think there is stuff behind this that is being kept under wraps. I mean why would Israel do such a concerted attack on a so called ally, if they wanted rid of the survellence ship surely they could of asked. Something fishy in this if you ask me...

Pisis · 03-14-2006, 06:16 PM

I read a book about IAF and as far as I'm right on this one, they attacked it by a mistake...

Henk · 03-14-2006, 06:22 PM

With the US flag clearly flapping in the wind?

I do not thinik so, maybe it was something or someone else.

Henk

pbfoot · 03-14-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Henk

I think that the US govermant does not wnat to make a big thing of this because they fear that they would lose Isreal as a friend in the middle east.

Henk

i think the opposite is true theUS has given well over 85billion dollars or 24000 dollars per israeli citizen in aid fully 33% of US foreign aid goes to Israel

plan_D · 03-15-2006, 05:05 AM

Mistaken identity ? Hah ! That's impossible. The Israeli forces had visual on the USS Liberty , and could have clearly seen the Stars and Stripes plus the many other visual IDs the ship carried.

That was an attack on a U.S vessel that has been covered up because of relations between the two nations. The U.S should have slaughtered the Israelis for that murder. That's what it was, a murder of USN personel and destruction of their equipment. With no declaration of war ... !

I told you all that Israel was scum.

Pisis · 03-15-2006, 08:07 AM

**** you

Hunter368 · 03-15-2006, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by plan_D

Mistaken identity ? Hah ! That's impossible. The Israeli forces had visual on the USS Liberty , and could have clearly seen the Stars and Stripes plus the many other visual IDs the ship carried.

That was an attack on a U.S vessel that has been covered up because of relations between the two nations. The U.S should have slaughtered the Israelis for that murder. That's what it was, a murder of USN personel and destruction of their equipment. With no declaration of war ... !

I told you all that Israel was scum.

I think you are right PlanD. Everything I have read about it it was slaughter. I read they strafed men in the water, in their boats, it was bad. I mean just read that letter from that guy that I posted, it just pains my heart to read it. I feel bad for those men. Israel did it to make a point I think, that is stay out of our business or else. USA did nothing back b/c it needs Israel in the middle east as a friend. With a friend like that who needs enemies. Israel murdered those men.

PlanD I always thought you were alittle nutty about your opinions about the Middle east and turning it into a park lot, but I have to say you are starting to make me believe, slag them all, including Israel. Turn the middle east into the worlds biggest beach (nothing but sand) or the biggest shopping mall for the rich and famous. They all are just a pain in the azz in the middle east.

evangilder · 03-15-2006, 10:24 AM

Umm, guys, while I think this incident is obviously a tragedy, I don't think it is fair to characterize Israel as a villain based only on this event. Israel has been a pretty good ally. Have they done bad things? Yes, but what country has not? Israel is the ONLY democracy in the middle east right now. They are surrounded by nations that would like nothing better than to see them wiped off the face of the earth. So they sometimes have to resort to extreme measures to keep themselves safe.

Let's not bash other people's countries. You have all the right in the world to dislike them, but remember that there are people from all over the world on this board.

Erich · 03-15-2006, 10:59 AM

you Israel scum haters are warped. You better wake up before you get your throat slit by rag heads..........who is the real threat ? it is rather obvious don't you really think. Maybe it's your age for some of you guys/gals and maybe too your immaturity in life not having been overseas feeling the physical effects; the receiving end who is really trying to take you and the world out ............ eh ? !

ah my plans for a mid-east Velodrome are getting forever larger ........