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07-22-2007, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by pbfoot What loop has Canada made you jump through as your biggest supplier of oil | Sorry, I was talking about the Arabs. Quote: |
Originally Posted by mkloby The problems noted regarding batteries are the same today that they were back then - impractical regarding power production and the necessary charging times; plus they are expensive, bulky, and lose ability to hold a charge over time. Maybe they have made some major strides, but to my knowledge they are still overall impractical. | A new type of Li-ion battery has been developed that holds twice the power of the previous one and takes a full charge in minues. It is called an M-1 battery. Its first use in going to be in power tools. Another breakthrough like this and electric cars could become practical. Electric storage media would be ideal solution. All power sources are all presently integrated into the electric grid, which already exist. No infrastructure supports H2. |
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07-22-2007, 11:14 AM
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| Bush's biggest mistake since day 1 of his presidency was not to understand the value of the "bully pulpit" of his office, nor the inherent power of a press conference in which to publisize his programs.
For an energy policy, all he had to do is get up on the podium with some simple charts and diagrams and say we need a mix of energy sources, including nukes, geothermal, solar, coal and natural gas. he then could tell the liberals that if they were concerned about global warming, then they should all embrace nuclear power.
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07-22-2007, 11:16 AM
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Country: | The electric car issue then in 82 or 83, and I'm sorry but haven't kept with the strides since then, is the re-charging of the battery. This guy came up with using a small gas-powered engine to re-charge - somewhat the opposite of what happens now. The power was derived from the battery. I've seen this technology starting to be used now but it was available 25 yrs ago and it was smothered by the Big 3. And thats what I have an issue with. The Auto makers want everyone to believe they're trying their darndest to provide a solution but the track record speaks differently.
Its been so long and I haven't seen anything since about it until recently. The news program I saw was somewhat like a Dateline and I just remember this guy getting hammered by Detroit.
My point is that I believe the technology exists now to improve transportation but the Automakers are moving like snails uphill in molassas in wintertime.
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07-22-2007, 11:25 AM
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Country: | On the katrina issue. Enough said about federal, state and local reactions. That stuff is all a red herring and something trumped up by the dems and their lap dogs, the media, to beat Bush up about. But, I don't often agree with anything the "National Geographic" says anymore, but a late issue brings up the idea that New Orleans never should have grown up in the manner that it did(with many areas below sea level) that it is impossible to protect many of those areas with levees in the case of a major hurricane and possibly NO should not be rebuilt in those areas. Makes sense to me. |
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07-22-2007, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Njaco The electric car issue then in 82 or 83, and I'm sorry but haven't kept with the strides since then, is the re-charging of the battery. This guy came up with using a small gas-powered engine to re-charge - somewhat the opposite of what happens now. The power was derived from the battery. I've seen this technology starting to be used now but it was available 25 yrs ago and it was smothered by the Big 3. And thats what I have an issue with. The Auto makers want everyone to believe they're trying their darndest to provide a solution but the track record speaks differently.
Its been so long and I haven't seen anything since about it until recently. The news program I saw was somewhat like a Dateline and I just remember this guy getting hammered by Detroit.
My point is that I believe the technology exists now to improve transportation but the Automakers are moving like snails uphill in molassas in wintertime. | The private sector is moving in right direction. I know of at least one project due in LA area that will be a co-op between Power Utility, Private company which will probably get some assistance from State of CA.
The key as always is infrastructure to support day by day driving in metropolitn area first to support work force, then move outbound to support lengthy travel. |
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07-22-2007, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by renrich On the katrina issue. Enough said about federal, state and local reactions. That stuff is all a red herring and something trumped up by the dems and their lap dogs, the media, to beat Bush up about. But, I don't often agree with anything the "National Geographic" says anymore, but a late issue brings up the idea that New Orleans never should have grown up in the manner that it did(with many areas below sea level) that it is impossible to protect many of those areas with levees in the case of a major hurricane and possibly NO should not be rebuilt in those areas. Makes sense to me. | I agree with you on the National Geographic. But, I also agree that New Orleans should not have been below water level, and parts should not be rebuilt. |
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07-22-2007, 06:14 PM
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Country: | I agree with both of you, Drgn and Ren. Thats development that doesn't plan for the furure. Money now is the gain. I watched something about Katrina where a year before they had a scenario (and I'm probably repeating here) for a Cat 5 Hurricane and knew it wasn't ready. That being said, it was a failure all the way around, not just Bush. From the Gov down to the "Chocolate Again" Mayor. Rhetoric.
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07-22-2007, 06:27 PM
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Country: | The problem is that it won't be politically correct to not rebuild NO as before. It will be discrimination. We are being hoist upon our own petard. |
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07-22-2007, 08:52 PM
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07-22-2007, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Njaco I agree with both of you, Drgn and Ren. Thats development that doesn't plan for the furure. Money now is the gain. I watched something about Katrina where a year before they had a scenario (and I'm probably repeating here) for a Cat 5 Hurricane and knew it wasn't ready. That being said, it was a failure all the way around, not just Bush. From the Gov down to the "Chocolate Again" Mayor. Rhetoric. | The Corps of Engineers has been warning about the doomday scenario of a 4 or 5 T boning New Orleans for 70 years. It will happen, hopefully not with Hillary in office because Bush will be blamed for it |
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07-22-2007, 10:49 PM
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Country: | I have voted Lukewarm about President George Bush Jnr. He has made some really glaring mistakes. However as I view it its a new type of warfare none of us are that clued about. Unlike other wars that have occured in HISTORY and we know why the WAR is being waged and for reasons etc. I believe this is an ideological war based on pervse religious idealism which has be highjacked from Islam. I believe that all nations who are supporting Bush on War On Terror (viz US) are in the process of a learning curve if you like. It takes time and intelligence to figure what Fundamental Islam is pursuing and that we as nations are coming to grips with this new form of ideological warfare. This is my opinion on the subject. That is why I have voted luke warm about President Bush. He has made mistakes but so have we all and especially other Governments have done the same. But the one thing I do agree with Bush cutting and running to spare further loses will be seen as a defeat which we can ill afford to do in front of Islamic Fundamentalism. Is there an answer to Iraq? Yes I believe so just I am not sure what it is but leaving a situation like Iraq in my opinion is a recipe for disaster. Because we would be handing victory to Islamic Fundamentalism and as I said that would be horrendous in my opinion. As it would spread further then the Middle East in other parts of the world. Sorry I had not answered before on this poll. Was reading other opinions with far more knowledge than myself and taking in all sides of the debate. As for US Internal Politics. I perfer to not answer that. As I am not a US Citizen and I feel not eligible to make comments on your internal politics . I will judge George Bush and the US Govt on its Foriegn Affairs records
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07-22-2007, 11:58 PM
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| I give Bush high marks for at least doing something about radical islam.
But his downfall has been his domestic policy and his continual insults to his political base that elected him.
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07-23-2007, 12:27 AM
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Country: | I voted lukewarm also for the exact reasons Syscom gave. Had such high hopes especially after 9/11. 
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07-23-2007, 01:57 AM
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Country: | Sys his stance on Radical Islam I have no problem with. His Politics on your home front as I said not commenting on as it isn't my place I feel to do so |
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07-23-2007, 07:16 AM
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Country: | I don't like Bush's stance on Stem Cell research and abortion. This is a lame political subject matter and those heavy duty bible thumpers really concerned about abortion should of done something about it way back when abortion was first legalized in the US.
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